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    Obama banks on big business to help end deadlock

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    Post by kelnchp Thu 03 Oct 2013, 6:37 pm

    Two days into a government shutdown that has put more than 800,000 federal workers on furlough and agencies in crisis mode, President Barack Obama met privately at the White House with the heads of the nation's top banks on Wednesday to discuss the economic impasse.
    Obama hopes to enlist the executives’ support as he urges congressional action to resolve the government shutdown and to avoid breaching the Oct. 17 deadline to raise the nation’s debt limit — a situation that could batter financial markets around the world.
    Although the meeting was planned before this week's shutdown, it comes as Republicans in the House of Representatives continue refusing to allow a vote on a temporary spending resolution to fund the government. Many Republicans, including Speaker of the House John Boehner, want any bill that’s passed to include a delay of provisions of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), also known as Obamacare. Obama and the Democrats have refused to work with such a measure.
    RELATED ARTICLE: Obama, lawmakers to meet on government shutdown
    Shortly before the meeting Wednesday, JPMorgan Chase Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon said he "would love to see a resolution" to the shutdown. Afterward, Lloyd Blankfein, the head of Goldman Sachs, warned about the consequences of a failure to resolve the crisis. "We shouldn't use the threat of causing the U.S. to fail on its obligations to repay its debt as a cudgel," he told reporters outside the White House.
    Amid the government shutdown and ahead of the looming debt ceiling debate, the U.S. Treasury on Tuesday started using its last tools for pushing back the date when the government will run out of legal borrowing authority, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew said.
    In a letter to lawmakers, Lew said the Treasury Department was suspending some reinvestments of a government currency exchange fund, and would enter into a debt swap with the Federal Financing Bank and the Civil Service Retirement and Disability Fund.
    Lew said that these measures would allow the government to continue operating below its $16.7 trillion debt limit for a little while longer — but that by Oct. 17, the government will have exhausted its borrowing authority and will be left with about $30 billion in cash to pay the nation's bills.
    If Congress fails to raise the $16.7 trillion borrowing cap, the United States — the world’s largest economy — would go into default, potentially sending shock waves through international financial markets. The Obama administration has been unequivocal in its refusal to negotiate on the debt limit or to link raising it to a particular set of budget priorities.
    Some conservative Republicans have signaled that they may use the same tactic on the debt limit that they have used on government funding.
    Paul Ryan, a Wisconsin Republican who is chairman of the influential House Budget Committee, made the link explicit to reporters Tuesday. "We have a debt limit coming," he said. "Most budget agreements in the past have always involved debt limit increases.
    "That's what we think we need,” he said, “a forcing action to bring two parties together.”
    But some groups that have traditionally been at odds with the president’s policies, including over regulation and health care, are urging the passage of a budget and a subsequent raising of the debt ceiling.
    Even as the White House meeting appeared to shore up some support from executives of the nation’s top banks, The Associated Press reported that the American Chamber of Commerce, which has been a critic of the president’s health care plan and tax policies, sent Congress a letter — signed by more than 250 business groups — urging an end to the shutdown and a raising of the debt ceiling.
    While the letter made a point of criticizing some of the president’s policies regarding entitlement programs and unsustainable levels of government debt, it said the debt ceiling must be raised “in a timely manner” in order to “remove any threat to the full faith and credit of the United States government."
    Still, some conservative Republicans are unlikely to be swayed.
    Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., told the AP that “it wouldn't make any difference” to him if big business thought the government shutdown was adversely affecting the economy.

    White House meeting
    Also on Wednesday, Obama was set to host congressional leaders later in the afternoon.
    Boehner's office said the Ohio Republican would attend, a possible signal that the president is ready to start negotiating on GOP demands about the new health care law in exchange for funding the government.
    "We're pleased the president finally recognizes that his refusal to negotiate is indefensible," Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck said. "It's unclear why we'd be having this meeting if it's not meant to be a start to serious talks between the two parties."
    Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland, the second-ranking House Democrat, said Democrats would overwhelmingly accept a short-term spending measure to reopen the government and increase the nation's debt limit while other political differences are worked out. "That would be a responsible way to go," Hoyer told CNN.
    Al Jazeera and wire services
    http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/10/2/as-shutdown-continuesobamameetswithleadingbankersoneconomy.html

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    Obama banks on big business to help end deadlock Empty Interesting take on the last tools of treasury department.

    Post by kelnchp Thu 03 Oct 2013, 7:19 pm

    http://goingglobaleastmeetswest.blogspot.com/2013/10/us-treasury-starts-last-steps-to.html



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    There was an article posted by Reuters "US Treasury starts last steps to preserve borrowing authority" (link).  In it there was something that caught my eye "Lew said his department was suspending some reinvestments of a government currency exchange fund...".  Well, that "government currency exchange fund" would be the Exchange Stabilization Fund.  

    Normally, this fund is used to prop-up a  foreign country's currency by creating a quantitative easing of sorts and weakening the currency to usd, allowing for a greater export/import and bringing the country out of a "recession". 


     (A few examples but, the one I'm looking at is japan's yen link)  We both know that the US isn't in any position to help another country.


    However, what is interesting is that for Lew to touch this thing...in any manner he must have the president's approval to open it up.  ("A change in the law, in 1970, allows the Secretary of the Treasury, with the approval of the President, to use money in the ESF to "deal in gold, foreign exchange, and other instruments of credit and securities" link) It holds our "foreign reserves" and our "SDRs".  "The Gold Reserve Act authorized the ESF to use such assets as were not needed for exchange market stabilization to deal in government securities". 


    What if the entire reason behind the government shut down, was to give Lew the availability of the EFR, so that the IQD (among others) could be turned around to "deal in government securities"?  It would allow the president to claim turning the deficit around "by making wise decisions despite those horrible tea baggers." 


    Currently, we can't even check what the Treasury's current reporting rate of exchange rate is...cause guess what...they shut it down. "Due to the lapse in federal government funding, this website is not available. We sincerely regret this inconvenience."  link  The most recent pdf available that I have found is from 2005. link  (another thought, as long as the government is shut down and the current report rate is unavailable...what is used in the US for going exhanges?)


    Perhaps, I'm running down a rabbit hole (i have been with children all day...lol)  but, the president just doesn't seem to pissed about the shut down....there is something more there.

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    *Currency intervention, also known as exchange rate intervention or foreign exchange market intervention, is the purchase or the sale of the currency on the exchange market by the fiscal authority or the monetary authority, in order to influence the value of the domestic currency. link


    *The Exchange Stabilization Fund (ESF) is an emergency reserve fund of the United States Treasury Department, normally used for foreign exchange intervention. This arrangement (as opposed to having the central bank intervene directly) allows the US government to influence currency exchange rates without affecting domestic money supply.As of October 2009, the fund held assets worth $105 billion, including $58.1 billion in special drawing rights (SDR) from the International Monetary Fund.[1]  link


    *u.s.gov.org not available ..  link 


    *Treasury Reporting Rates of Exchange  As of  March 31, 2005

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    Post by Neno Thu 03 Oct 2013, 8:05 pm

    As as I am educated, the federal reserve note can belly up for all I care and bring on the US Treasury Note instead and, stop all GOV spending and.... rid more and more government. Just how I feel about it these days.
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    Post by kelnchp Thu 03 Oct 2013, 8:54 pm

    Neno wrote:As as I am educated, the federal reserve note can belly up for all I care and bring on the US Treasury Note instead and, stop all GOV spending and.... rid more and more government. Just how I feel about it these days.
    I agree the Federal Reserve is just a middle man that is not even needed.
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    Post by kelnchp Thu 03 Oct 2013, 9:00 pm

    The Primary Owners of the Federal Reserve Bank Are:
    Submitted by truth supporter on Sat, 01/03/2009 - 15:07
    in


    "The Primary Owners of the Federal Reserve Bank Are:
    1. Rothschild's of London and Berlin
    2. Lazard Brothers of Paris
    3. Israel Moses Seaf of Italy
    4. Kuhn, Loeb & Co. of Germany and New York
    5. Warburg & Company of Hamburg, Germany
    6. Lehman Brothers of New York
    7. Goldman, Sachs of New York
    8. Rockefeller Brothers of New York
    All the primary owners are branches of European establishments. Foreigners control the United States Money supply. They literally own exclusive rights to the dollar and simply enter dollars into their banks books to make money which they then lend back to us at a profit. For them money does not grow on trees, it is simply a data entry into their account. Clearly the private ownership of the U.S. Dollar is by far The Greatest Crime of the Century. The owners of this bank have been responsible for instigating all the major wars and depressions in the last 100 years. They own the bank, they own the dollar and they own all the major media channels, the military industrial complex and most politicians, judges and cops.
    Sometimes the bank pays an arbitrary 'franchise fee' to the U.S. government to keep the politicians paid off. "

    http://www.dailypaul.com/77899/the-primary-owners-of-the-federal-reserve-bank-are
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    Post by Lionheart Fri 04 Oct 2013, 5:36 am

    :shock: I am not so educated, but I do agree.
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    Post by kelnchp Fri 04 Oct 2013, 8:47 am

    randy wrote::shock: I am not so educated, but I do agree.
    I am not either I am just reading what some other people have been posting...But if this is what Lew did is open up the Exchange Stabilization Fund this would allow them access to foreign currency....If the USA hold Dinar which many people are speculating we do have Dinar this RV may be really close.  Another speculation is that the last time the government was shutdown was for 28 days was with Clinton.  Apparently at that time Kuwait revalued and guess what we ended up with a surplus not right away but gradually.  I also found it very interesting in Obama speech a couple days ago he said our deficit would be cut in half.  Now that could be just me having wishful thinking but again who knows.


    Now this is a thought of my own if the dollar plummets because of Gov. shutdown. What would this do to the Federal Reserve?  According to the Ron Paul Article they own the rights on the dollar.


    They literally own exclusive rights to the dollar and simply enter dollars into their banks books to make money which they then lend back to us at a profit.


    If the dollar is worthless does this break the Federal Reserve or are they too tied up in other banks around the world for this to be just a hiccup if this happens?
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    Post by fonz1951 Fri 04 Oct 2013, 9:17 am

    kinda hard to have a government shutdown when you dont have a government. the biggest problem we have is that we have far too much government to begin with. everybody i know is running around screaming gloom and doom over this. imho i say let them shutdown, and see what happens, we could'nt be any worse off than we were already.looks like global reset is becoming more and more like a distinct possibility.
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    Post by kelnchp Fri 04 Oct 2013, 10:04 am

    fonz1951 wrote:kinda hard to have a government shutdown when you dont have a government. the biggest problem we have is that we have far too much government to begin with. everybody i know is running around screaming gloom and doom over this. imho i say let them shutdown, and see what happens, we could'nt be any worse off than we were already.looks like global reset is becoming more and more like a distinct possibility.
    Agree....I wonder if this was what the FEMA camps were for.....just a thought.
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    Post by fonz1951 Fri 04 Oct 2013, 11:17 am

    kelnchp wrote:Agree....I wonder if this was what the FEMA camps were for.....just a thought.
    could be, you never know, i also have to wonder why the dept. of homeland security bought up billions of rounds of ammo? would'nt you just love to be a fly on the wall, and know what they know?

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