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Colorado Democrats want gun manufacturers held liable for crimes committed with their guns

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Post by csd9013 Thu 07 Feb 2013, 4:49 pm

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The owners and makers of assault-style weapons could soon be held legally liable in Colorado for crimes committed with their guns, if sponsors of a new gun-control package have their way.
State Democrats unveiled the broad package of measures this week, joined by gun violence survivors from the Columbine, Aurora and Sandy Hook shootings.

The eight bills detailed at a press conference Tuesday tackle gun control as well as mental health issues tied to gun violence. Among them are measures to put universal background checks in place for private gun sales and a bill to ban sales of high-capacity ammunition magazines.
But getting the most attention is the gun manufacturer-liability measure.

“This is the most aggressive anti-gun legislation ever floated in the country,” Republican Sen. Greg Brophy told FoxNews.com Thursday. “To hold everybody in the entire chain of possession responsible for a crime committed by one person? The manufacturer, dealer and owners? That’s equivalent to blaming Coors for a drunk driver and the 7-Eleven after someone steals a 12-pack.”

The proposal would hold manufacturers of firearms, as well as sellers, responsible for crimes committed with those guns. The measure apparently conflicts with an existing federal law, but Democrats in the state reportedly say they want to get that federal law repealed.
Republicans say the gun liability measure would effectively ban those weapons because manufacturers and retailers would be afraid to sell them.

While Democrats hold a majority in both state houses, though, getting the sweeping series of bills passed will be an uphill battle.

Colorado has taken center stage in the country’s fight over gun control. David Keene, the head of the National Rifle Association, is in Denver to meet with Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper and Senate President John Morse.

Keene called universal background checks a political "sweet spot," during an interview with The Associated Press on Thursday. He added that the current background check systems are underfunded and that forcing them on private sales would be logistically difficult.
Colorado’s governor has said in the past he supports background checks, but he has remained publicly quiet about the legislative package introduced earlier this week.

“The governor is hiding under his desk when it comes to answering the hard questions,” Brophy said. “It took me 30 seconds to figure out what the plans do. The governor shouldn’t be given a pass. He needs to address the issue.”
Calls for comment to the governor’s office were not immediately returned.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/07/colorado-democrats-want-gun-sellers-manufacturers-held-liable-for-crimes/#ixzz2KFxMAwRB
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Post by Wildman Fri 08 Feb 2013, 9:21 am



STELLA AWARDS:
It's
time again for the annual 'Stella Awards'! For those unfamiliar with
these awards, they are named after 81-year-old Stella Liebeck who
spilled hot coffee on herself and successfully sued the McDonald's in
New Mexico , where she purchased coffee. You remember, she took the lid
off the coffee and put it between her knees while she was driving. Who
would ever think one could get burned doing that, right? That's right;
these are awards for the most outlandish lawsuits and verdicts in the
U.S. You know, the kinds of cases that make you scratch your head. So
keep your head scratcher handy.



Here are the Stellas for year -- 2012:

* SEVENTH PLACE *





Kathleen
Robertson of Austin, Texas was awarded $80,000 by a jury of her peers
after breaking her ankle tripping over a toddler who was running inside a
furniture store. The store owners were understandably surprised by the
verdict, considering the running toddler was her own son



Start scratching!

* SIXTH PLACE *



Carl
Truman, 19, of Los Angeles , California won $74,000 plus medical
expenses when his neighbor ran over his hand with a Honda Accord. Truman
apparently didn't notice there was someone at the wheel of the car when
he was trying to steal his neighbor's hubcaps.


Scratch some more...




* FIFTH PLACE *



Terrence
Dickson, of Bristol , Pennsylvania , who was leaving a house he had
just burglarized by way of the garage. Unfortunately for Dickson, the
automatic garage door opener malfunctioned and he could not get the
garage door to open. Worse, he couldn't re-enter the house because the
door connecting the garage to the house locked when Dickson pulled it
shut. Forced to sit for eight, count 'em, EIGHT days and survive on a
case of Pepsi and a large bag of dry dog food, he sued the homeowner's
insurance company claiming undue mental Anguish. Amazingly, the jury
said the insurance company must pay Dickson $500,000 for his anguish. We
should all have this kind of anguish Keep scratching. There are more...




Double hand scratching after this one..



* FOURTH PLACE *



Jerry
Williams, of Little Rock, Arkansas, garnered 4th Place in the Stella's
when he was awarded $14,500 plus medical expenses after being bitten on
the butt by his next door neighbor's beagle - even though the beagle was
on a chain in its owner's fenced yard. Williams did not get as much as
he asked for because the jury believed the beagle might have been
provoked at the time of the butt bite because Williams had climbed over
the fence into the yard and repeatedly shot the dog with a pellet gun.



Pick a new spot to scratch, you're getting a bald spot..

* THIRD PLACE *

Amber
Carson of Lancaster, Pennsylvania because a jury ordered a Philadelphia
restaurant to pay her $113,500 after she slipped on a spilled soft
drink and broke her tailbone. The reason the soft drink was on the
floor: Ms. Carson had thrown it at her boyfriend 30 seconds earlier
during an argument.
Only two more so ease up on the scratching...




*SECOND PLACE*



Kara
Walton, of Claymont , Delaware sued the owner of a night club in a
nearby city because she fell from the bathroom window to the floor,
knocking out her two front teeth. Even though Ms. Walton was trying to
sneak through the ladies room window to avoid paying the $3.50 cover
charge, the jury said the night club had to pay her $12,000....oh, yeah,
plus dental expenses. Go figure.


Ok. Here we go!!


* FIRST PLACE *




This
year's runaway First Place Stella Award winner was: Mrs. Merv
Grazinski, of Oklahoma City , Oklahoma , who purchased new 32-foot
Winnebago motor home. On her first trip home, from an OU football game,
having driven on to the freeway, she set the cruise control at 70 mphand
calmly left the driver's seat to go to the back of the Winnebago to
make herself a sandwich. Not surprisingly, the motor home left the
freeway, crashed and overturned. Also not surprisingly, Mrs. Grazinski
sued Winnebago for not putting in the owner's manual that she couldn't
actually leave the driver's seat while the cruise control was set. The
Oklahoma jury awarded her, are you sitting down?


$1,750,000
PLUS a new motor home. Winnebago actually changed their manuals as a
result of this suit, just in case Mrs. Grazinski has any relatives who
might also buy a motor home.

You think the court system is out of control?
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Post by CITEX Fri 08 Feb 2013, 4:34 pm

elandur wrote:Can we sue the legislator who proposed this for wasting the money that the taxpayers are paying him? How about we make legislators liable for the damage they cause by enacting stupid legislation without taking into account the "unintended" consequences that typically occur because they didn't think things through enough before they legislated with their feelings. Maybe they should be liable for the jobs they will cost people when they drive manufacturers out of business (and not just in the gun industry).

They think that a person should have to take some sort of test (or a battery of them) before they are allowed to have a gun. Perhaps there should be some sort of tests administered to prospective candidates for office before they can stand for election - intelligence tests would be a good start, followed up by tests on US History.

Perfect solution, hopefully it can come with some jail time, of course this should be served in General population, not club Fed. It should also mandate the loss of ones right to vote for the rest of thier life.
Only one test for gun owners needed... eyesight. If they choose to shoot that target, thats thier freedom, not thier right, thier freedom. The consequences are also thiers. Even at the loss of a loved one, I still have this opinion, as its not my Right to take anyones Freedom, nor is it yours.
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Post by duck2000 Fri 08 Feb 2013, 4:51 pm

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DeWalt Rapid fire nail gun. lol. Don't think it's real tho.

Colorado Democrats want gun manufacturers held liable for crimes committed with their guns - Page 2 Dewart1-630x284

Should Congress begin debate on legislation to enact federal controls on hammers, bats and other readily available tools as a way to “end the violence”?

According to the most recent statistics from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, more Americans commit murders with hammers than with “assault rifles” or other long guns.





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FBI crime statistics show that in 2005, the number of murders with a hammer or other blunt object was 605. The number of murders by rifles was 445.

The numbers are roughly similar for every year through 2011, the last year figures are available. In 2011 there were 323 murders by rifle but 496 with hammers and other blunt objects.

The figures call into question the claimed relationship between the number of violent crimes and the availability of firearms.

Second Amendment analyst and investigative journalist Mike Vanderboegh says the figures demand one question be asked: If it’s statistically proven that rifles are used in a relatively small number of homicides, why do those weapons seem to be the constant focus of attempts at new regulation?

“Why do they want to ban them? Because they are afraid of them? Why are they afraid?” Vanderboegh asked.

“I think it’s because many in our government fear that those weapons might one day get turned on them when their demands become too tyrannical,” Vanderboegh said.

The Newtown, Conn., shooting prompted introspection about human nature and what causes violent crimes.

Front Sight Firearms Training Center president and founder Ignatius Piazza says a major factor in the recent mass shootings is behavior-modifying drugs.

“Prior to the introduction of psychiatric drugs being given to children and adults, we did not have these homicidal and suicidal mass shootings, even though guns were readily available and unrestricted,” Piazza said.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/is-it-time-to-call-for-hammer-control/#PSkgFRwlw3ixSRgo.99
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Post by csd9013 Fri 08 Feb 2013, 4:56 pm

So you think the theater is in no way at fault because the alarm on the fire exist door didn't go off?

Had the alarm went off, had someone had got off their lazy arse, did their job, maybe, just maybe some of those people wouldn't have died.

Wildman wrote:

STELLA AWARDS:
It's
time again for the annual 'Stella Awards'! For those unfamiliar with
these awards, they are named after 81-year-old Stella Liebeck who
spilled hot coffee on herself and successfully sued the McDonald's in
New Mexico , where she purchased coffee. You remember, she took the lid
off the coffee and put it between her knees while she was driving. Who
would ever think one could get burned doing that, right? That's right;
these are awards for the most outlandish lawsuits and verdicts in the
U.S. You know, the kinds of cases that make you scratch your head. So
keep your head scratcher handy.



Here are the Stellas for year -- 2012:

* SEVENTH PLACE *





Kathleen
Robertson of Austin, Texas was awarded $80,000 by a jury of her peers
after breaking her ankle tripping over a toddler who was running inside a
furniture store. The store owners were understandably surprised by the
verdict, considering the running toddler was her own son



Start scratching!

* SIXTH PLACE *



Carl
Truman, 19, of Los Angeles , California won $74,000 plus medical
expenses when his neighbor ran over his hand with a Honda Accord. Truman
apparently didn't notice there was someone at the wheel of the car when
he was trying to steal his neighbor's hubcaps.


Scratch some more...




* FIFTH PLACE *



Terrence
Dickson, of Bristol , Pennsylvania , who was leaving a house he had
just burglarized by way of the garage. Unfortunately for Dickson, the
automatic garage door opener malfunctioned and he could not get the
garage door to open. Worse, he couldn't re-enter the house because the
door connecting the garage to the house locked when Dickson pulled it
shut. Forced to sit for eight, count 'em, EIGHT days and survive on a
case of Pepsi and a large bag of dry dog food, he sued the homeowner's
insurance company claiming undue mental Anguish. Amazingly, the jury
said the insurance company must pay Dickson $500,000 for his anguish. We
should all have this kind of anguish Keep scratching. There are more...




Double hand scratching after this one..



* FOURTH PLACE *



Jerry
Williams, of Little Rock, Arkansas, garnered 4th Place in the Stella's
when he was awarded $14,500 plus medical expenses after being bitten on
the butt by his next door neighbor's beagle - even though the beagle was
on a chain in its owner's fenced yard. Williams did not get as much as
he asked for because the jury believed the beagle might have been
provoked at the time of the butt bite because Williams had climbed over
the fence into the yard and repeatedly shot the dog with a pellet gun.



Pick a new spot to scratch, you're getting a bald spot..

* THIRD PLACE *

Amber
Carson of Lancaster, Pennsylvania because a jury ordered a Philadelphia
restaurant to pay her $113,500 after she slipped on a spilled soft
drink and broke her tailbone. The reason the soft drink was on the
floor: Ms. Carson had thrown it at her boyfriend 30 seconds earlier
during an argument.
Only two more so ease up on the scratching...




*SECOND PLACE*



Kara
Walton, of Claymont , Delaware sued the owner of a night club in a
nearby city because she fell from the bathroom window to the floor,
knocking out her two front teeth. Even though Ms. Walton was trying to
sneak through the ladies room window to avoid paying the $3.50 cover
charge, the jury said the night club had to pay her $12,000....oh, yeah,
plus dental expenses. Go figure.


Ok. Here we go!!


* FIRST PLACE *




This
year's runaway First Place Stella Award winner was: Mrs. Merv
Grazinski, of Oklahoma City , Oklahoma , who purchased new 32-foot
Winnebago motor home. On her first trip home, from an OU football game,
having driven on to the freeway, she set the cruise control at 70 mphand
calmly left the driver's seat to go to the back of the Winnebago to
make herself a sandwich. Not surprisingly, the motor home left the
freeway, crashed and overturned. Also not surprisingly, Mrs. Grazinski
sued Winnebago for not putting in the owner's manual that she couldn't
actually leave the driver's seat while the cruise control was set. The
Oklahoma jury awarded her, are you sitting down?


$1,750,000
PLUS a new motor home. Winnebago actually changed their manuals as a
result of this suit, just in case Mrs. Grazinski has any relatives who
might also buy a motor home.

You think the court system is out of control?

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