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    Post by wciappetta Mon 15 Apr 2013, 7:43 am

    IMO action should be taken right now...Russia is helping them...


    North Korean EMP attack 'unstoppable'

    Weapon could slip U.S. defenses via satellite, detonating over Nebraska

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/north-korean-emp-attack-unstoppable/

    If North Korea were to launch a preemptive nuclear attack on the
    United States, it could use a long-range missile to orbit a satellite
    over the South Pole, putting it in line to fly over Omaha, Neb., and
    explode it at a 300-mile altitude where U.S. Aegis anti-ballistic
    missile systems cannot reach, sources have told WND.


    In addition, these sources say, there is no way to determine whether a
    missile is carrying a dummy or real nuclear warhead, obviating the need
    to shoot down any missile that is launched from North Korea, given the
    public warning by Pyongyang that it intends to launch a preemptive
    nuclear strike against the U.S.







    The U.S. has positioned Aegis ships near North Korea and Japan, but a
    political decision apparently has been made not to attempt to shoot it
    down if it is heading for open water.


    Sources say, however, that a missile to be launched toward the U.S.
    would take a trajectory over the South Pole, and it is questionable
    whether the U.S. has Aegis assets anywhere along the southerly path such
    a missile would take.


    In addition, the missile would need to be shot down almost after
    lift-off, since the missile would launch the satellite relatively
    quickly into an orbit of 300 miles, which was the altitude of its
    satellite launch last December.


    North Korea, meanwhile, announced in a statement that it has drawn
    the “arrows” for “merciless retaliatory strikes” at the U.S. mainland,
    U.S. military bases in the Pacific and “all other bases where the U.S.
    imperialist aggression forces station.


    “The powerful strike means of the revolutionary armed forces of the
    DPRK [Democratic People's Republic of Korea] have been put in their
    places and the coordinates of targets put into the warheads,” a North
    Korean statement said. “Just pressing the button will be enough to turn
    the strongholds of the enemies into the sea of fire.”


    “North Korea in December successfully orbited a satellite weighing
    220 pounds – so they could deliver against the United States, or against
    any nation on Earth, a small nuclear warhead,” said Dr. Peter Vincent
    Pry, who served as staff director on the a commission that looked into
    the effects of an electromagnetic pulse, or EMP, on the national
    electrical grid system and other critical U.S. infrastructures.


    THIS is how an EMP event could bring the world’s remaining superpower to its knees. Read it in “A Nation Forsaken.”

    “A nuclear weapon designed specifically to generate a powerful
    electromagnetic pulse, or EMP – a single such ‘super-EMP’ warhead would
    be able to collapse the U.S. electric grid and other critical
    infrastructures, inflicting catastrophic consequences on the entire
    nation – would probably be deliverable by North Korea’s so-called ‘space
    launch vehicle’ over the United States,” said Pry, who also worked for
    the Central Intelligence Agency. “North Korea orbited its satellite on a
    trajectory and at an altitude ideal for making an EMP attack on the
    U.S.”


    Pry pointed out that South Korean military intelligence has warned
    not only their government but also the U.S. that North Korea is
    developing super-EMP warheads with Russian help.


    In 2011, Pry pointed out, a military commentator with the People’s
    Republic of China stated that North Korea has super-EMP warheads.
    Data
    from North Korea’s nuclear tests, he said, are consistent with a
    super-EMP warhead.

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    Pry’s comments echo those of former U.S. Ambassador Henry Cooper, in
    which he said that North Korea could launch a nuclear weapon on a
    satellite, similar to satellites North Korea has previously launched
    southward over the South Pole.


    “After all,” Cooper said in an interview with WND, “their previous
    satellites have been successfully placed in orbits that are optimum for
    executing an electromagnetic pulse, or EMP, attack on the entire
    continental U.S. with a single nuclear burst.”


    Cooper, chairman of the board of High Frontier, which is dedicated to
    warning the U.S. against a missile attack, developed the framework for
    President Ronald Reagan’s Strategic Defense Initiative. He also pushed
    for a workable missile defense system for the U.S. and later became
    director of the Strategic Defense Initiative Organization under
    President George W. Bush.


    Cooper pointed out that the satellite carrying a nuclear warhead
    could be detonated at an altitude of 300 miles. With a detonation over
    Omaha, he said, it would blanket the entire continental United States
    with EMP effects, the consequences of which could, within a year, lead
    to the death of hundreds of millions of Americans and end our way of
    life.”


    Other sources have indicated that the 220-pound satellite would be
    able to carry a 300 kiloton nuclear bomb, similar to the weight of
    warheads on U.S. missiles and would be sufficient to create an EMP
    effect from coast to coast if exploded at 300 miles above Omaha.


    “North Korea, Iran and everyone else understands these points – or
    certainly should if they have been awake,” Cooper said. “But have they
    connected the dots?”


    Cooper said that if the satellite with a nuclear weapon in it were to
    come from the southern hemisphere, there may not be sufficient warning
    and tracking information to support an intercept attempt before North
    Korea detonates its nuclear device over Omaha.


    He said North Korea could launch a nuclear weapon on a satellite,
    similar to satellites North Korea has previously launched southward over
    the South Pole.


    “After all, their previous satellites have been successfully placed
    in orbits that are optimum for executing an electromagnetic pulse attack
    on the entire continental U.S. with a single nuclear burst,” Cooper
    said.


    “Our current defense is focused on an attack from the north but if
    the attack came from the south via satellite, it might not be capable of
    intercepting the satellite before North Korea detonates its device,”
    Cooper warned.


    “Moreover,” he added, “where there are disputes about whether North
    Korean ballistic missiles launched in a normal ballistic trajectory have
    sufficient range to reach the U.S. mainland, there can be no dispute
    about whether a nuclear weapon on a satellite can be detonated on orbit
    above the United States – or anywhere else on the surface of the earth.”


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    Post by zimi31 Mon 15 Apr 2013, 8:06 am


    This is very, very scary!!!
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    Post by mazzone62 Mon 15 Apr 2013, 8:24 am

    Can't we just distroy their satellites now? Oops a meteor must have hit them,:roll:.
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    Post by notazbad2000 Mon 15 Apr 2013, 8:37 am

    Wasn't this stuff out of a James Bond movies?!


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    Post by csd9013 Mon 15 Apr 2013, 9:03 am

    I've always been scared of North Korea but my fear is growing at an alarming rate.

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    This is very, very scary!!!
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    Post by elandur Mon 15 Apr 2013, 9:54 am

    Scary indeed. An EMP attack against the US is the most logical way to attack us with a nuclear weapon for maximum effect - particularly if you don't have very many of them to use. And AEGIS is a great system, but only for boost phase or terminal shoot-downs. Perhaps we could get the Chinese to down it for us once in orbit - they have demonstrated the capability to shoot down a satellite in orbit already. Of course, they may not be in position to do so.

    On the other hand, the ability to orbit a 220 lb payload does not mean they have the capability to orbit a nuke quite yet. While they have demonstrated the ability to build and detonate one underground, that does not mean they have the ability to mount one on a missile. 220 lbs is pretty small. And their reliability, both the missile and the nuke, is suspect.

    The good news is they don't have thermonuclear capability - we are talking fission weapons here, not fusion weapons. Yield would likely be in the low kiloton range. The bad news is that it doesn't matter much when talking EMP. A fusion warhead isn't all that much "better" than a fission warhead.

    And yes, it is very very scary. A nuclear burst at 300 miles wouldn't affect us down here with the blast effects; but the EMP has the potential of taking out our electronic infrastructure - or at least crippling it. We would probably glass Pyongyang - but that wouldn't help things here. Worst case, it could take down the entire electric grid for 18 months to 3 years. Estimates I have see say we would lose 80-90% of our population within 12 months - absent massive aid from the outside. Even if such aid materialized we could still be looking at millions dead - and crippling effects to the economy that could last decades.
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    Post by wciappetta Mon 15 Apr 2013, 10:05 am

    notazbad2000 wrote:Wasn't this stuff out of a James Bond movies?!


    No that was the Korean with the Derby that decapitated statues ...his name was "Oddjob"
    North Korean EMP attack 'unstoppable' Oddjob

    Seriously though,this nut in N.Korea is a menace ... And with Russia helping that nations nuclear weapons program, I'm sure they wiped the fuzz off their technology ...We might just be watching a proxy provocation ... our enemies are testing our resolve right now, betting we do nothing... I'm not worried though, I have blessed assurance, yet if I was in Obama's seat we wouldn't be talking about this right now. That's just the way I feel about it... Our enemies would know our resolve and what we will not tolerate.


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    Post by wciappetta Mon 15 Apr 2013, 10:06 am

    elandur wrote:Scary indeed. An EMP attack against the US is the most logical way to attack us with a nuclear weapon for maximum effect - particularly if you don't have very many of them to use. And AEGIS is a great system, but only for boost phase or terminal shoot-downs. Perhaps we could get the Chinese to down it for us once in orbit - they have demonstrated the capability to shoot down a satellite in orbit already. Of course, they may not be in position to do so.

    On the other hand, the ability to orbit a 220 lb payload does not mean they have the capability to orbit a nuke quite yet. While they have demonstrated the ability to build and detonate one underground, that does not mean they have the ability to mount one on a missile. 220 lbs is pretty small. And their reliability, both the missile and the nuke, is suspect.

    The good news is they don't have thermonuclear capability - we are talking fission weapons here, not fusion weapons. Yield would likely be in the low kiloton range. The bad news is that it doesn't matter much when talking EMP. A fusion warhead isn't all that much "better" than a fission warhead.

    And yes, it is very very scary. A nuclear burst at 300 miles wouldn't affect us down here with the blast effects; but the EMP has the potential of taking out our electronic infrastructure - or at least crippling it. We would probably glass Pyongyang - but that wouldn't help things here. Worst case, it could take down the entire electric grid for 18 months to 3 years. Estimates I have see say we would lose 80-90% of our population within 12 months - absent massive aid from the outside. Even if such aid materialized we could still be looking at millions dead - and crippling effects to the economy that could last decades.

    exactly right.... though we do have the report from the Pentagon saying they have the ability put a nuke on those missiles and they already demonstrated they can put an object into orbit ... Again if Russia is helping them, then they gave them the technology to do it.


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    Post by notazbad2000 Mon 15 Apr 2013, 10:20 am

    It was "Day Another Day" with Pierce Brosnan. It's kind of like the tribes in Iraq. They keep pushing each other's buttons until the other strikes!


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    Post by ron-man Mon 15 Apr 2013, 10:24 am

    This guy seems ready to destory his own people,because of his pride.dosen't he know that he will very likely be in the first group to br destroyed.How sad that human life means nothing,to all of theses people in power.They should stop and think about the look on Osama's face when all of a sudden they were in front of him with no way of surrender.He without a doubt thought that day would never come.He was sure able to send others to their death,but he was a coward to do it himself.Almost sorry"just venting,I should be praying for all."

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