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    "Wikileaks" reveal "the most dangerous" secret documents .. Hidden reasons for the "Iraq" .. Our ambitions for him greater than the potential of "Saddam" no matter what "concession" to us!
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    "No one understands how much Iraq is important to us at IFB," said one of the leaders of the IFB, the world secret community that controls America and the majority of Western countries on his deathbed.

     We have succeeded in misleading the two main reasons for our occupation of it, by focusing on the two well-known reasons agreed upon by all:

    1 Iraq is geographically the center of the Middle East. Controlling it means controlling the heart of the Middle East, geographically, militarily and culturally.

    2 It is also economically possessing the largest oil reserves, in addition to the two rivers and many important minerals discovered and undiscovered.

    But Saddam Hussein was prepared to make all concessions to us, giving us the right to invest oil as we wish, as well as full military cooperation with us, including the establishment of bases. Military operations across Iraq.

    But our ambitions for this country are greater than the potential of Saddam no matter how much he wants to give us, as it goes beyond the interests of oil and military, to the strategic political, ideological and historical interests that this country is one of the most dangerous areas of our strategy to control the world, and therefore require our direct presence in the land of Iraq:

    This is a very important point: the people of Iraq are diverse to Shiites and Sunnis, as well as Kurds, Turkomans, Christians and others. It is located directly in the middle of the two rival Islamic poles: the Iranian Shiite pole and the Saudi Sunni pole. This means that it is the only country that is geographically and spatially prepared to be a battleground between the two belligerents and to deepen the stranglehold in the Muslim world.

    2 symbolically and quietly. This point is one of our greatest secrets, which we strive to conceal: Iraq has a serious historical and spiritual significance for us as IFB members, fortunately no one else has noticed. It is no coincidence that our president Bush chose the day of the first war on Iraq in 1991 to announce the end of the two-pole system and the emergence of the "New World Order", the birth of the first universal civilization in history.

    The Iraqi civilization is our greatest rival because it is the closest to us. Our Western civilization is an up-to-date picture of it, the height of material worldly civilization. We know and recognize that the roots of the civilization of the West come back to Babylon, and we do not deny it, but we are afraid to declare it explicitly to not steal this civilization and take over us, and become "Baghdad" is "Paris, London and New York." It is the soul that we need and sanctify in our depths, but we do not want to recognize it until we have been certain of our ability to control it. We, like young children, need a lot of maturity and willingness to reconcile with our first teacher and we can have positive understanding with him and take advantage of his experience and wealth. Iraq is serious civilization Bakderma are powerful and rich and great. It is like a predator animal that needs a lot of power, control, dodging, kneeling and starvation in order to whiten it and tame it. Any weakness by us in the face of this inflamed Iraqi fiery spirit will give it the historic opportunity that awaits us in order to prove to us and devour us as others have done. Look at Saddam. There was enough carelessness, support and indulgence from us to suddenly start implementing his imperial Middle East project by penetrating Iran and then occupying Kuwait to take control of Saudi Arabia to blow out his imperial dream inherited and rooted in the land of his homeland!

    Therefore, for many years now our policy towards this dangerous civilization has been concentrated in two aspects:

    In all the media and institutions concerned, despite our secret sanctification. But to work to distort it by focusing on the biblical position, including the issue of (the Jewish captivity) and the curse of God on Babylon and destruction. And the obscuration of the role of Arabs and Muslims and the Abbasid civilization in the enlightenment of Europe. And make (thousand nights and nights) and stories of slaves and neighbors is the only media picture common in the world media.

    At the same time, we strive with all our capabilities to deepen the knowledge of the dates, details and secrets of this civilization through drilling and exploration and secret studies, hoping to decipher the secrets and control and prepare to face all unexpected surprises. We believe that there are great mysteries underground that have been left by the mighty powers that are founded and controlled by the universe. But perhaps even assumed roles of certain forces coming from other planets that contributed to the establishment of civilization in Sumer and Babylon. Therefore, one of the most important goals of our invasion and control of Iraq, to ​​capture the effects of the task and we secretly explore some of the special effects that lead us to those hidden secrets dangerous. It is no coincidence that our first step on the first day of our control of Iraq was that we prepared to steal the Iraqi Museum and destroy it in order to obscure our takeover of some important monuments.

    Yes, it is absolutely true that we claim that we came to build Iraq, but unless it is clearly stated, we will build it after we destroy it, dismantle its details, study it, understand its secrets and fully guarantee all its surprises and treacherous gestures. Our historic spiritual power over Iraq ensures our effective control over the entire Middle East, and thus the entire world.

    At the beginning of the second millennium, the final stage of our destructive project, based on the sectarian division of the Islamic world, required the actual exercise of this conflict to reach the stage of bloody war between the two sides. We have chosen Iraq, where it has the best conditions for the Sunni-Shiite conflict. There is a Shiite sect that is numerically strong and historically oppressed and is adjacent to the Iranian Shiite pole. It is met by a Sunni sect that is a few, but effective and well-governed, and supported by sectarian Arab neighbors, especially by the Saudi Sunni pole. Iraq's geographical location adjacent to Iran and Saudi Arabia, especially the rest of the Levant, as well as Turkey, and its clear sectarian divide made us choose it as the best arena for the Shiite struggle between the Sunni and the Salafist Saudi Arabia!

    There are, of course, other complementary causes. It is not only the confluence of the two poles of the sect, but also the national diversity of the countries of the Middle East: Arabs, Kurds, Turkmen, Christians and others.

    We have succeeded, thanks to the support of our Kurdish, Israeli, Iranian and Saudi leaders, to convince the Shiite leaders of Iraq and the rest of those who are against Sunni Saddam to be a useful tool in our destructive project for Iraq and for the entire Islamic world. Under the pretext of combating dictatorship and building democracy!

    Saddam Hussein has served us since he came to power in 1979. He executed the Baathist leaders who opposed our policy and sabotaged the unity with Syria, entered the destructive war with Iran, invaded Kuwait and provided all the pretexts for us to strike Iraq, siege, starvation and humiliation until its invasion and occupation. . Even the poor man has served us unwittingly even after we were overthrown. We have succeeded in his televised trials to create a Sunni Arab hero who has become a victim of Shia fanatics. This has played a crucial role in feeding the sectarian conflict!

    Since 2003 we have been more than expected to make Iraq an open arena and a blatant example for all Muslims of the bloody conflict raged between the two Sunni-Shiite poles. But we have made it a land for the suffering of Christians and Sabians and other groups, in addition to the myth of the suffering of the Kurds before that. Yes, for two decades we have made Iraq the land of ruin and a center of darkness that awaits the entire region. We hope to make it the land of order, stability and prosperity, and a center for a democratic Middle East that is fully in line with our interests.

    The Iraqi civilization is our greatest competitor because it is the closest to us. Our Western civilization is an updated picture of the worldly materialistic world. We know and recognize that the roots of the civilization of the West come back to Babylon, and we do not deny it, but we are afraid to declare it explicitly not to steal this civilization and take over us, and become Baghdad (Paris, London and New York). It is the soul that we need and sanctify in our depths, but we do not want to recognize it until we have been certain of our ability to control it. We, like young children, need a lot of maturity and willingness to reconcile with our first teacher and we can have positive understanding with him and take advantage of his experience and wealth. Iraq is serious civilization Bakderma are powerful and rich and great. It is like a predator animal that needs a lot of power, control, dodging, kneeling and starvation in order to whiten it and tame it. Any weakness by us in the face of this inflamed Iraqi fiery spirit will give it the historic opportunity that awaits us in order to prove to us and devour us as others have done. Look at Saddam. There was enough carelessness, support and indulgence from us to suddenly start implementing his imperial Middle East project by penetrating Iran and then occupying Kuwait to take control of Saudi Arabia to blow out his imperial dream inherited and rooted in the land of his homeland!

    Therefore, for many years now our policy towards this dangerous civilization has been concentrated in two aspects:

    In all the media and institutions concerned, despite our secret sanctification. But to work to distort it by focusing on the biblical position, including the issue of (the Jewish captivity) and the curse of God on Babylon and destruction. And the obscuration of the role of Arabs and Muslims and the Abbasid civilization in the enlightenment of Europe. And make (thousand nights and nights) and stories of slaves and neighbors is the only media picture common in the world media.

    At the same time, we strive with all our capabilities to deepen the knowledge of the dates, details and secrets of this civilization through drilling and exploration and secret studies, hoping to decipher the secrets and control and prepare to face all unexpected surprises. We believe that there are great mysteries underground that have been left by the mighty powers that are founded and controlled by the universe. But perhaps even assumed roles of certain forces coming from other planets that contributed to the establishment of civilization in Sumer and Babylon. Therefore, one of the most important goals of our invasion and control of Iraq, to ​​capture the effects of the task and we secretly explore some of the special effects that lead us to those hidden secrets dangerous. It is no coincidence that our first step on the first day of our control of Iraq was that we prepared to steal the Iraqi Museum and destroy it in order to obscure our takeover of some important monuments.

    Yes, it is absolutely true that we claim that we came to build Iraq, but unless it is clearly stated, we will build it after we destroy it, dismantle its details, study it, understand its secrets and fully guarantee all its surprises and treacherous gestures. Our historic spiritual power over Iraq ensures our effective control over the entire Middle East, and thus the entire world.

    At the beginning of the second millennium, the final stage of our destructive project, based on the sectarian division of the Islamic world, required the actual exercise of this conflict to reach the stage of bloody war between the two sides. We have chosen Iraq, where it has the best conditions for the Sunni-Shiite conflict. There is a Shiite sect that is numerically strong and historically oppressed and is adjacent to the Iranian Shiite pole. It is met by a Sunni sect that is a few, but effective and well-governed, and supported by sectarian Arab neighbors, especially by the Saudi Sunni pole. Iraq's geographical location adjacent to Iran and Saudi Arabia, especially the rest of the Levant, as well as Turkey, and its clear sectarian divide made us choose it as the best arena for the Shiite struggle between the Sunni and the Salafist Saudi Arabia!

    Of course, there are other complementary reasons. It is not only the confluence of sectarian poles, but also the intersection of the national differences of the countries of the Middle East: Arabs, Kurds, Turkmen, Christians and others.

    We have succeeded, thanks to the support of our Kurdish, Israeli, Iranian and Saudi leaders, to convince the Shiite leaders of Iraq and the rest of those who are against Sunni Saddam to be a useful tool in our destructive project for Iraq and for the entire Islamic world. Under the pretext of combating dictatorship and building democracy!

    Saddam Hussein has served us since he came to power in 1979. He executed the Baathist leaders who opposed our policy and sabotaged the unity with Syria, entered the destructive war with Iran, invaded Kuwait and provided all the pretexts for us to strike Iraq, siege, starvation and humiliation until its invasion and occupation. . Even the poor man has served us unwittingly even after we were overthrown. We have succeeded in his televised trials to create a Sunni Arab hero who has become a victim of Shia fanatics. This has played a crucial role in feeding the sectarian conflict!

    Since 2003 we have been more than expected to make Iraq an open arena and a blatant example for all Muslims of the bloody conflict raged between the two Sunni-Shiite poles. But we have made it a land for the suffering of Christians and Sabians and other groups, in addition to the myth of the suffering of the Kurds before that. Yes, for two decades we have made Iraq the land of ruin and a center of darkness that awaits the entire region. We hope to make it the land of order, stability and prosperity, and a center for a democratic Middle East that is fully in line with our interests.

    The conclusion of our current policy in Iraq is that for many years to come we will be under our full control (directly and indirectly) politically and militarily. And the important factor that we have succeeded in establishing and working to keep it, we have made the Iraqi state divided by sectarian and national, so that it can not be a strong central state, and vulnerable to the explosion and control. It is always a time when the Kurds are getting stronger and weakening the Arabs. We are trying to create differences between the Kurds and to facilitate their being hit by the neighboring countries. And as long as the Arabs take the initiative until we initiate the sectarian strife between them and give way to the emergence of the Kurdish role and the use of Kirkuk paper. And if we do not see the unity of all Iraqi parties and the emergence of a kind of confidence in the state and the sense of stability and the emergence of nationalist tendencies against the Americans, so that we move our customers and facilitate the matter for terrorists to carry out destructive operations that destabilize the prestige of the government and revive sectarian hatred and encourage the migration of young people and cadres and thus justify reliance on us to protect them from The terrorists!

    Do you know that we are the ones who encourage Iranian infiltration in Iraq and we are working to exaggerate it to weaken the Arab countries and Turkey and push them to fight in the land of Iraq, as well as scare the Iraqis and push them to hold us to protect them from the Iranian threat.

    Take, for example, the issue of delay in government formation during the long months. It was enough for us to put some simple pressure on the leaders of the conflicting parties to have to agree and agree to form the appropriate government. But we mean neutrality and play the role of a good father who does not have decisive authority over the pressures of Iran, Saudi Arabia and Syria .. All this in order to endure the weakness of the state and lose Iraqis confidence in their leaders and leaders and support their childish sense that they need our father's role as a guardian and protector of the security of the country!

    One of the biggest signs of our success in controlling the minds of Iraqis and the rest of the world is that we are determined to leave Iraq after our policy failed. From time to time, we are conducting a media play about military withdrawals. While a little wisdom is enough to think about the following:

    We built in the Green Zone in Baghdad the largest, largest and most powerful embassy in the history of mankind. It is 104 hectares and six times larger than the United Nations compound in New York and ten times the size of our embassy in Beijing. Cost about one billion dollars and the annual management cost of one billion dollars. With 20 buildings and 1000 employees. It is an independent city with housing, markets, entertainment, power generation, purification and filtration so that it can live completely independent for years!

    How can a man believe even if he has the mind of a child, we applaud such a legendary embassy in a country that we claim to be on the way out?




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    Post by ron-man Sun 26 Aug 2018, 1:15 pm

    WOW.
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    Post by Lobo Sun 26 Aug 2018, 2:31 pm

    WOW is right,

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    Post by weslin3 Sun 26 Aug 2018, 5:25 pm

      surprise Scary...
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    Post by weslin3 Sun 26 Aug 2018, 5:46 pm

    Does anyone know what the "IFB" stands for? Who is this?
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    Escaping the Closet: Secret Unbelief While Living in an IFB Home
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    Over the years, I have had numerous Independent Fundamentalist Baptist (IFB) teenagers and young adults contact me. A handful of them wanted to evangelize me, but the rest of them wanted advice. Many of these letter writers were the children of IFB pastors, evangelists, missionaries, and church leaders. What these young people wanted was advice on what to do about their increasing doubts and unbelief. There they were, the children of devoted Fundamentalists, yet they had serious doubts about Christianity in general, and IFB beliefs in particular. Some of these letter writers told me they were atheists or agnostics. Most of them wanted to know whether they should “share” their beliefs with their parents, pastors, siblings, or friends. Raised in an environment that values zealotry, these doubting Thomases thought that, at the very least, people would appreciate their openness and willingness to speak honestly about their doubts and struggles. I told them that I thought it was a bad idea to tell anyone about their loss of faith. While I know that hard-core atheists will likely object to me silencing their coming-out, I hope in the remainder of this post to explain why these closeted unbelieving young people should, for now, keep quiet.
    I grew up in the IFB church movement. I am, by all accounts, an expert on its doctrines, practices, and culture. I attended an IFB college, worked as an assistant pastor in two IFB churches, and planted a new IFB church which I pastored for eleven years. My wife’s father is a retired IFB pastor, and Polly’s late uncle, Jim Dennis, was an IFB pastor for over fifty years. Polly has cousins who are IFB pastors, an evangelist, and a missionary. I’ve spent the last decade writing about Evangelicalism in general, and have focused good bit of my attention on the IFB church movement. I spend several hours every day reading Evangelical and IFB blogs, websites, and news sites. From time to time, I even listen to sermons. While some might say that I am appealing to authority here, in the case of the IFB church movement, I know what I’m talking about. Having been both a congregant and a pastor, I have a well-rounded understanding of IFB churches. Many IFB preachers despise the work that I do because I dare to share the movement’s secrets. As a mobster-turned-snitch might say, I know where the bodies are buried.
    IFB pastors, churches, and educational institutions do not value doubt, skepticism, or intellectual inquiry. The goal, instead, is obedience and conformity. What is fellowship? IFB pastors ask. It’s fellows in a boat rowing in the same direction. Dare to disagree with the pastor or oppose his teachings, and you will quickly find yourself thrown overboard. While a certain level of doubt is acceptable — as long as it is within the four walls of the IFB box — doubters are expected to resolve their questions by reading and studying the Bible. But what happens when you stop believing that the Bible is the word of God; when you stop believing that Jesus is a virgin-born, miracle-working, resurrected-from-the-dead Savior? What happens when you find IFB moral standards and personal behavior regulations a millstone around your neck? What happens when you want to experience the things teenagers and young adults in the “world” experience? What if you want to smoke a joint, drink a beer, have sex, or dress the way people outside of the church dress? What if you want listen to secular music or enjoy the entertainments of the “world?” What if you just want to be yourself? What if you want be an out-of-the-closet gay or attend a public high school or college? What if you want to date the Catholic boy next door or skip church so you can play sports or attend a rock concert? While all of these behaviors and questions might seem silly to people outside of the IFB church movement, people raised in Fundamentalism know what can happen if you refuse to play by the rules and toe the line. Some readers of this blog were shipped off to IFB group homes when they were teenagers in the hope that their rebellion — a favorite IFB word — would be cured. Once imprisoned in these indoctrination camps, they were psychologically and physically abused. Some of them were sexually assaulted and raped. What was their crime? Rebellion, which the Bible says is as the sin of witchcraft. Once “cured” they were expected to return home and do what they were told.
    During my time in the IFB church movement, I saw teenagers assaulted and beaten for refusing to obey. In one church, I had a family come to me and tell me that they were considering cutting off all the hair from the head of their rebellious teenage daughter’s head. Appealing to the Bible, this couple believed that cutting off her hair would teach her a lesson. Fortunately, I was able to persuade them not to do this. And I am hardly without fault. As I look back over how we disciplined our children — or better put how “I” disciplined our children — the only conclusion I can come to is that I, at times, physically abused my three older boys. Fortunately, I saw the error of my ways when it came to my three younger children, and I abandon corporal punishment as a way to demand obedience. While I can say that I was only modeling that which I experienced in my own life and saw in the lives of men I admired, the fact remains that I used violence as a means of discipline. I know that corporal punishment is still common in IFB homes. I also know that it is not beyond many IFB parents to use draconian methods to drive the devil from the hearts of their children. I’ve spent countless hours reading the stories of adults who were savaged by their IFB parents as children and teenagers. These parents believed they were just following the Bible when they harshly attempted to drive the rebellion out of the hearts of their children. And they were. The Bible is clear on the matter. Parents who love their children should righteously and frequently use the rod of correction, driving rebellion and disobedience from their hearts.
    It is knowing all of these things that causes me to advise doubting IFB teenagers and young adults to keep their unbelief to themselves. Bide your time. Play the game. Fake it until you make it — make it being out of the house and on your own. It’s not hard to fake belief. I suspect that most IFB churches have congregants who are just playing the game; that they are attending church, with Bible in hand, praying when asked, and doing all the things good Christians are supposed to do, without believing a word of it. Some IFB pastors think that they can spot frauds from a mile away, but I know better. Truth be told, some of those frauds are their own children and spouses. Yes, I’ve even heard from pastor’s wives who are secret unbelievers.
    I can only imagine how difficult it must be to be an unbeliever in a sea of Fundamentalist faith. But, due to the serious and real risks involved in publicly announcing unbelief (or that one is gay), I strongly advise that doubting IFB teenagers and young adults keep their lack of faith to themselves. Go to church on Sunday morning, Sunday night, and Wednesday night, and play the game. You can do it. In the meantime, seek out people who can privately encourage and support you. Those who have written me over the years know that my email inbox is always open. I encourage them to not only read my writing, but also to read the stories of other people who have left Christianity. But even here, they must be careful. IFB parents can be quite controlling. I remember my youngest daughter being a pen pal with another pastor’s daughter. I never read my daughter’s letters, but her pen pal’s mother read every one of my daughter’s letters before giving them to her daughter. She also read every letter her daughter wrote to mine before it was sent. After word got out that Pastor Gerencser and his family were no longer attending church, the letter writing stopped. I wish I could say that the IFB teens and young adults who write me should go to their parents for support and understanding. The problem is that I doubt whether their parents would be okay with their unbelief. How could they? Allowing an unbelieving child in your home, especially if you are a pastor, is a sign that you do not have your children under control. Remember, IFB churches thrive on conformity, obedience, and control. Imagine what would happen if IFB parents let their children think for themselves. Why, in their minds, rebellion, heresy, and sin would abound.
    I know the advice I’m giving here is hard to take, but I do have the best interests of these teenagers and young adults at heart. I wouldn’t want to tell them to be out and proud, knowing that doing so could cause them great harm. I know that when you are fifteen, time moves oh, so slowly, but if these doubters will just play the game, before they know it they will be graduating from high school and will then be free to the tell the world they are not believers. And shouting it from the mountaintops will certainly cause continued stress and conflict, but it’s on IFB parents and churches to deal with the fact that they had unbelievers in their midst; that an increasing number of teenagers and young adults are no longer buying what preachers are selling; that what these unbelieving adults want most of all is acceptance for who they are, and the freedom to think for themselves and follow the path wherever it leads.

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    Post by weslin3 Sun 26 Aug 2018, 10:47 pm

    What a crazy twisted world that we live in???
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    Post by Zuzu Wed 29 Aug 2018, 9:16 am

    If you think this is scary, you should do some research on what is really going on in this world.  Check pedophilia and Illuminati.
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    Post by ahill Wed 29 Aug 2018, 11:37 am

    You are right, Zuzu.
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    Post by weslin3 Wed 29 Aug 2018, 5:52 pm

    Zuzu wrote:If you think this is scary, you should do some research on what is really going on in this world.  Check pedophilia and Illuminati.
    Most people doesn't have a clue what is going on is a scary thought also.

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