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    Alsumaria News - Internationals

    The British BBC revealed new details regarding the invasion of Iraq 20 years ago, and the ongoing debate about the existence of weapons of "mass destruction".


    The[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]stated, in a new report, that "twenty years after the invasion of Iraq, the debate is still raging about the existence of" weapons of mass destruction "that provided the justification for the United Kingdom's intervention in the invasion. New details have emerged about the search for weapons of mass destruction, within Produced by the[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], "Shock and War: Iraq 20 years on" is based on conversations with dozens of people directly involved.






    She added: “The CIA officers also remember the shock of their British counterparts. And he looked back[url=https://www.alsumaria.tv/Entity/1888671325/%D9%84%D9%88%D9%8A%D8%B3 %D8%B1%D9%88%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7/ar/]Louis Rueda[/url], president[url=https://www.alsumaria.tv/Entity/2620404555/%D9%85%D8%AC%D9%85%D9%88%D8%B9%D8%A9 %D8%B9%D9%85%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AA %D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%82/ar/]Iraq Operations Group[/url]In the CIA, their reactions were: "I thought they were going to have a heart attack in front of me on the table," and soon the message of the invasion plans reached Downing Street. And it was intelligence men, not diplomats, who handed it over.”

    Preparing for an invasion[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
    In a rare interview with the network[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]The then head of Britain's Secret Intelligence Service, Sir[url=https://www.alsumaria.tv/Entity/2535553123/%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%AA%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%AF %D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%B1%D9%84%D9%88%D9%81/ar/]Richard Dearlove[/url], who was a frequent visitor to Washington: "I was probably the first to say to the prime minister: 'Whether you like it or not, you will make all the necessary preparations, because it looks as if they are preparing an invasion.'"

    For the United States, the issue of weapons of mass destruction was secondary to a deeper attempt to overthrow the Iraqi president[url=https://www.alsumaria.tv/Entity/59559/%D8%B5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%85 %D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%86/ar/]Saddam Hussein[/url]. He says[url=https://www.alsumaria.tv/Entity/1888671325/%D9%84%D9%88%D9%8A%D8%B3 %D8%B1%D9%88%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7/ar/]Louis Rueda[/url], president[url=https://www.alsumaria.tv/Entity/2620404555/%D9%85%D8%AC%D9%85%D9%88%D8%B9%D8%A9 %D8%B9%D9%85%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AA %D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%82/ar/]Iraq Operations Group[/url]At the CIA: "We were going to invade[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], even if it is what he owns[url=https://www.alsumaria.tv/Entity/59559/%D8%B5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%85 %D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%86/ar/]Saddam Hussein[/url]It's a rubber band and a paperclip.”

    For the UK, when it came to convincing a skeptical public of the need for an invasion[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Central, the alleged threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction - chemical, biological and nuclear weapons - was central.

    At times it has been alleged that the UK government has fabricated claims relating to weapons of mass destruction. But ministers at the time say they were reassured by their spies that the weapons were there.

    Relying on intelligence information
    said the former prime minister[url=https://www.alsumaria.tv/Entity/732249944/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%B1 %D8%AA%D9%88%D9%86%D9%8A %D8%A8%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%B1/ar/]Sir Tony Blair[/url]"It's really important to understand that the intelligence I was getting was what I was relying on." And on the eve of the invasion, Blair indicated that he sought reassurances from[url=https://www.alsumaria.tv/Entity/850443913/%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%86%D8%A9 %D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AA %D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B4%D8%AA%D8%B1%D9%83%D8%A9/ar/]Joint Intelligence Committee[/url]And he already got it. He refuses to criticize the intelligence services for having received false assurances, while other ministers say they had doubts at the time.

    When asked if he was looking at an invasion[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]As an intelligence failure, Sir Richard simply replied, "No." He still believes that[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]He had some kind of weapons program and that his operatives may have been moved across the border into Syria.

    But others disagree with this view. Sir says[url=https://www.alsumaria.tv/Entity/3471172141/%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF %D8%A3%D9%88%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%AF/ar/]David Omand[/url], who was then the UK's security and intelligence coordinator: "It was a huge failure." He says that confirmation bias led government experts to hear bits of information that supported the idea that[url=https://www.alsumaria.tv/Entity/59559/%D8%B5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%85 %D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%86/ar/]Saddam Hussein[/url]He possessed weapons of mass destruction, excluding anything else.

    Secret Service fears
    Some within Britain's Secret Intelligence Service say they have fears too. Says one of the officers who worked in[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]"At the time I felt what we were doing was wrong," he said, who had not spoken before and asked not to be identified.

    Speaking of the early 2002 period, the former officer added, "There was no intelligence and no new or credible assessment indicating that[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]WMD programs have restarted and they pose an imminent threat. I think from the government's point of view that was the only justification they could find...the weapons of mass destruction were the only peg on which they could hang the legitimacy of the invasion.” Until the spring of 2002, the intelligence

    there was patchy. in[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]They had little or no information about weapons of mass destruction, and there was a desperate search for new intelligence from new sources to support the case, especially when planning to file a September dossier.

    On the 12th of September Sir Richard entered Downing Street with news of an important new source. This person claimed that[url=https://www.alsumaria.tv/Entity/59559/%D8%B5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%85 %D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%86/ar/]Saddam Hussein[/url]He resumed his weapons programs, promising to provide new details soon. Although this source has not undergone full vetting processes and its information has not been shared with experts, the details have been handed over to the Prime Minister.

    Other intelligence sources say that in the following months, this new source never delivered the details he had promised, and the government eventually saw him as fabricating the information he provided. Sources argue that information quality control was breaking down.

    Fabricating Information
    It was possible that some of the new sources fabricated information for money or because they wanted insight[url=https://www.alsumaria.tv/Entity/59559/%D8%B5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%85 %D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%86/ar/]Saddam Hussein[/url]He is removed from office. In January 2003, he met a reporter[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]security[url=https://www.alsumaria.tv/Entity/4122272683/%D8%AC%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%86 %D9%83%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B1%D8%A7/ar/]Gordon Corera[/url]A defector from Saddam's intelligence service in Jordan, who claims to have been involved in developing mobile laboratories to work on biological weapons, out of sight of UN inspectors.

    His allegations entered the presentation made by the US Secretary of State[url=https://www.alsumaria.tv/Entity/1359094386/%D9%83%D9%88%D9%84%D9%86 %D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%88%D9%84/ar/]Colin Powell[/url]before the United Nations in February 2003, although some within the US administration had already issued an intelligence notice that this information could not be trusted.

    It is worth remembering that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, according to the network's report[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]British, a few weeks before the 2003 war, he visited the security correspondent[url=https://www.alsumaria.tv/Entity/4122272683/%D8%AC%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%86 %D9%83%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B1%D8%A7/ar/]Gordon Corera[/url]Halabja village in the north[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]He heard locals describe a day in 1988 when Saddam's army dropped chemical weapons on them. The truth about what happened to those weapons did not emerge until after the war.

    Saddam had ordered the destruction of much of his weapons of mass destruction program in the early 1990s after the first Gulf War, Shabaka said[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]British; This was in the hope of getting a clean bill of health from UN weapons inspectors, a senior Iraqi scientist said later.

    may have been[url=https://www.alsumaria.tv/Entity/59559/%D8%B5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%85 %D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%86/ar/]Saddam Hussein[/url]Hope to restart programs later. But he secretly destroyed everything; Network report[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]The British partly to keep a bluff that he might still have something he could use against neighboring Iran, with which he had just gone to war. So when UN inspectors asked[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Later on, proving that he had destroyed everything, he couldn't.

    Hunt for weapons of mass destruction
    By the end of 2002, UN inspectors had returned to[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]In search of weapons of mass destruction. And remember some of those inspectors, who spoke to Grid[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]For the first time, searching for locations where intelligence from the West indicates that mobile laboratories may be located. But they only find what they might call a "great ice cream truck" covered in cobwebs.

    Little did the public know at the time that with war looming, sources failing to deliver promised information and inspectors unable to obtain evidence, there were concerns. “Panic” is the word an insider used to describe the situation at the time. "My future is in your hands," Blair said half-jokingly to Sir Richard in January 2003, as pressure was mounting to find evidence of weapons of mass destruction.

    "It was depressing at the time," Sir Richard now recalls. Sir Richard accused the inspectors of being "incompetent"; For their failure to find any evidence. And he said[url=https://www.alsumaria.tv/Entity/421860739/%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%B2 %D8%A8%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%83%D8%B3/ar/]Hans Blix[/url], who led the United Nations' chemical and biological inspections, told Network[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]He said that until the beginning of 2003, he believed that there were weapons, but he began to suspect their existence after the intelligence information failed to provide confirmed evidence. He wanted more time to get answers, but he didn't get it.

    The failure to find "conclusive evidence" will not stop the war in March 2003.

    Avoid military action
    , Tony Blair told the network[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]: "I tried until the last moment to avoid military action." President George Bush, fearing that his ally might lose a vote in Parliament on the eve of the war, offered him, in a video call, the chance to back out of the invasion and only participate in its aftermath, but the British Prime Minister refused.

    He also defended his decision as a matter of principle in terms of the need to deal with[url=https://www.alsumaria.tv/Entity/59559/%D8%B5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%85 %D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%86/ar/]Saddam Hussein[/url], and also because of the need to preserve the relationship between the United Kingdom and the United States. "The withdrawal could have had a huge impact on the relationship," Blair said.

    But no weapons of mass destruction were found after that. “It all fell apart,” says a former British Secret Intelligence Service officer, recalling an internal review of sources after the war. This would have deep and lasting consequences in the work and relationships of both spies and politicians.

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