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    Post by duck2000 Wed 25 Mar 2015, 4:48 pm

    FORT BRAGG, N.C. (AP) — Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who abandoned his post in Afghanistan and was held captive by the Taliban, was charged Wednesday by the U.S. military with desertion and misbehavior before the enemy and could get life in prison if convicted.
    Misbehavior before the enemy, which carries a maximum sentence of up to life in prison. Desertion carries a maximum of five years. Bergdahl could also face a dishonorable discharge, reduction in rank and forfeiture of all his pay if convicted.
    The case now goes to an Article 32 hearing to be held at Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio, where Bergdahl has been performing administrative duties as he awaits the conclusion of the case. That proceeding is similar to a grand jury. From there, it could be referred to a court-martial and go to trial.
    traitor of the century AAa0jWX © AP Photo/Brian Skoloff, File In this June 4, 2014 file photo, flags and balloons marking the release from captivity of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl adorn the sidewalk outside a shop in the soldier's hometown of Hailey, Idaho. The Army sergeant who abandoned his post in… A date for that hearing was not announced.
    The charges are the latest development in a long and bitter debate over Bergdahl's case. They also underscore the military and political ramifications of his decision on June 30, 2009, to leave his post after expressing misgivings about the U.S. military's role, as well as his own, in the Afghanistan war.
    After leaving his post, Bergdahl was captured by the Taliban and held by members of the Haqqani network, an insurgent group tied to the Taliban that operates both in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
    Last May 31, Bergdahl was handed over to U.S. special forces in Afghanistan as part of an exchange for five Taliban commanders who were imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
    The exchange set off a debate over whether the U.S. should have released the five Taliban members. Little is known about what the five have been doing in Qatar, where they are being monitored by the government. Some lawmakers have predicted that the five would return to the battlefield.
    Sen. Lindsey Graham has said that he received information that one of the five has been in touch with members of the Haqqani network. On the flip side, Afghanistan's peace council in 2011 requested the release of one of the five, Khairullah Khairkhwa, from Guantanamo because it thought he might be able to help foster reconciliation talks with the Taliban.
    Sen. Roger Wicker, R-Miss., a member of the Armed Services Committee, was asked by reporter Wednesday whether the charges raised doubts about the initial trade of Bergdahl for the Taliban members.
    "I would think that it would raise doubts in the mind of the average American if those doubts weren't raised already," Wicker said.
    Daniel Conway, a military defense lawyer and the author of a forthcoming book on military crimes, said he wouldn't expect the Army to seek much prison time for Bergdahl because of his time as a Taliban captive.
    traitor of the century AA9ZGS5 © AP Photo/U.S. Army, File This undated file photo provided by the U.S. Army shows Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl. However, military brass needed to prosecute the case because a conviction would mean Bergdahl cannot collect special compensation as a prisoner of war, Conway said.
    "He did spend X number of years as a prisoner of the Taliban - that certainly mitigates the need for him to be locked up. But as a political matter, I don't think we can stomach the possibility that he deserted his post and could receive $300,000 in back pay for it."
    Misbehavior before the enemy is a rarely brought charge, typically reserved for shameful or cowardly conduct, Conway said.
    The desertion charge does not require that prosecutors prove Bergdahl had no intention of returning to his unit, a key element for more serious desertion charges. However, it could be a tough case to make, said former Army lawyer Greg Rinckey.
    "It's tough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, especially if you have someone that's been gone for five years and potentially may have some mental health issues at the time that the defense is going to bring up," Rinckey said.
    Maj. Gen. Kenneth R. Dahl investigated the Bergdahl case and spent months interviewing unit members and commanders, and meeting with Bergdahl and his attorney, Eugene Fidell, a military justice expert who is also a visiting lecturer at Yale Law School.
    The case was referred to Gen. Mark Milley, head of U.S. Army Forces Command at Fort Bragg. He reviewed the case for months and had a broad range of legal options.
    Milley could have decided not to charge Bergdahl at all, recommend administrative action or convene a court-martial on more serious offenses.
    Some within the military have suggested that Bergdahl's long capture was punishment enough, but others, including members of his former unit, have called for serious punishment, saying that other service members risked their lives — and several died — searching for him.
    A major consideration was whether military officials would be able to prove that Bergdahl had no intention of returning to his unit — a key element in the more serious desertion charges.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/military-bergdahl-may-face-life-in-prison-if-convicted/ar-AA9ZMmM
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    Post by duck2000 Wed 25 Mar 2015, 4:52 pm

    why did our comander and chief praise this traitor? send his people out to say he served with honour?

    where is the horse to draw and quarter this idiot!  life in jail is not enough we lost soliders looking for this traitor!!!
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    Post by zimi31 Wed 25 Mar 2015, 5:35 pm

    Amen Duck!!! This is one of the worst abuses Obama has pulled off!!! Traded 5 Talaban commanders for this lousy creep that cost our great soldiers their lives trying to find him...   Eye Poke
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    Post by Lionheart Thu 26 Mar 2015, 7:41 am

    our comander and chief.                            Not my comander and chief
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    Post by Ronbo Thu 26 Mar 2015, 11:30 am

    What do you wanna bet that he gets pardoned when O leaves office? Would that surprise anyone??
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    Post by csd9013 Thu 26 Mar 2015, 11:31 am

    Ronbo wrote:What do you wanna bet that he gets pardoned when O leaves office? Would that surprise anyone??
    I'm not sure O will allow him to be convicted.
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    Post by zimi31 Thu 26 Mar 2015, 2:15 pm

    From what I've been hearing, the military trial probably won't happen until he's out of office. Not sure how that works, but another brilliant move by the 'One' who gets it wrong everytime. Leave it to him to elevate a traitor and destroy the innocent.  Evil or Very Mad
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    Post by csd9013 Fri 27 Mar 2015, 3:44 pm

    Just as I thought.

    [size=30]Report: ‘Senior Defense Officials’ Are Hampering Army’s Prosecution of Bowe Bergdahl[/size]

    It is beginning to look as though Barack Obama is trying to prevent any further embarrassment over deserter Bowe Bergahl by having top Pentagon officials meddling in the prosecution of the traitor.


    A series of reports from CNN seems to show a disturbing pattern of meddling.
    …Barbara Starr, as implying that the two defense officials are only confirming for her why Bergdahl “says” he left base. But the three tweets from CNN’s National Security desk reference two defense officials who say Bergdahl walked off his post to “report what he believed to be problems with ‘order and discipline’ in his unit.” The direct quote from the “second official” reinforces the impression that he and his colleague are speaking to Starr on background, and that rather than merely reporting what Bergdahl “says,” they are endorsing a version of events that is in Bergdahl’s legal favor. Indeed, if Bergdahl “wasn’t fed up; he wasn’t planning to desert,” why is the Army charging him with desertion?
    If a defense attorney were saying these things to CNN, I would have no objection. Every American accused of a crime deserves a vigorous defense, including soldiers accused of serious misdeeds on the battlefield. But this appears to be a pair of senior defense officials (the language of which implies to me that these men are likely not in uniform) promoting Bergdahl’s case, undermining the prosecution, interfering with the legal process, and calling into question the character of his platoon mates, who have been critical of Bergdahl and the Obama administration’s actions in the press.
    Which is reprehensible. What is the Obama administration’s plan here, exactly? Bergdahl’s defense for abandoning his weapon and walking off his post appears to be that his unit was engaged in incompetent or even unconscionable behavior, which he felt it was his duty to report. Now senior officials are going to leak to the press that Bergdahl has been right all along, and his comrades in arms, who did not abandon their posts in the night, may have (wink, nudge) been up to some bad stuff? That the real hero here is Bergdahl?
    Obama once again using lies and subterfuge to make himself look better.
    http://rightwingnews.com/democrats/report-senior-defense-officials-are-hampering-armys-prosecution-of-bowe-bergdahl/
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    Post by zimi31 Fri 27 Mar 2015, 5:01 pm

    Only hope we can survive two more years!!!   drunk
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    Post by pc1chas Fri 27 Mar 2015, 6:19 pm

    Don't even get me going on this moron…. probably would have the secret service at my door

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