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    Financial Times: The Iraq war insulted America, which did not learn from its lesson

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    Financial Times: The Iraq war insulted America, which did not learn from its lesson Empty Financial Times: The Iraq war insulted America, which did not learn from its lesson

    Post by Rocky Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:15 pm

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    Baghdad / Obelisk: The Financial Times newspaper called for reflection on the Iraq war twenty years later, and how it left its mark in the form of a treasury of pain added to the bitter experience of Vietnam when the number of American forces in Vietnam reached its peak in 1969.
    American casualties are much higher in Vietnam. Yes, and the war of conscripts leaves scars in society in a way that not all volunteers can do, but Iraq was the most controversial war fought by a Western country in the past half century, and yet it did not leave much of its impact on the culture of the Western generation, especially the mechanisms of opposition to war, or its acceptance .
    Some leaders have fallen (José María Aznar in Spain), and others have been re-elected after a long period despite the war (George W. Bush and Tony Blair), but there has been no systemic change. Also, the question about how the leaders behaved during the war quickly faded away and was no longer a test of his patriotism, his rule, or anything else. The current President of the United States, Biden, voted for it. So have every British prime minister since 2003 except for the last two, who were not MPs at the time. Had these leaders voted the other way, their rise would not have been halted.
    On the margins he may have been helped by Donald Trump’s pledge to end “forever wars” in 2016. But there is no hope that we can attribute recent populism to post-Iraq disenchantment with elites. The populists are doing well in France, which has stayed out of the war. The Tea Party hates Barack Obama, who opposed it. If anything tainted the good reputation of the ruling class, it was the financial crash of 2008.
    There was no Iraqi version of the Vietnam syndrome: no hesitation in the use or threat of hard force. By 2011, the West was engaged in Libya. France spent nine years in the Sahel. It is difficult to imagine the deployment of troops on such a large scale, and rightly so.
    And Joe Biden suggests, over and over again, that America will defend Taiwan even though he is not formally obligated to protect it. It seems that there is no lesson in Iraq that can be learned from.
    The pain in Iraq disturbed and shamed the United States, which made it not interact with Russia's actions in Georgia, Crimea and Syria, which emboldened the Kremlin and led to the current war in Ukraine.
    Even in the narrow sphere of military doctrine, the change brought about by the experience of Iraq (and the experience of Afghanistan) turned out to be fleeting. And here is the experience being repeated in Ukraine, as it was thought that the traditional wars between countries had ended.
    For Iraq itself, the repercussions of the war have not ceased to appear. Including the rise of ISIS and the expansion of the stronger hand of Iran. Translated by Adnan AZ
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