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    Iraq Seeks To Cancel Security Agreement With US, Will Invite Russia To Fight ISIS

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    Post by Lobo Wed 09 Dec 2015, 5:40 pm

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    Most Iraqis, be they civilians, military personnel, or government officials, do not trust Americans.  
    At a base level, that makes all kinds of sense. After all, the US did launch what amounted to a unilateral invasion of the country just a little over a decade ago, and when it was all said and done, a dictator was deposed but it’s not entirely clear that Iraqis are better off for it.
    ISIS controls key cities including the Mosul, the country’s second largest, and security is a daily concern for the populace. The Americans are still seen - rightly - as occupiers, and Washington’s inability to effectively counter ISIS has created a culture of suspicion in which most Iraqis believe the US is in cahoots with the militants for what [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] as “a variety of pernicious reasons that have to do with asserting U.S. control over Iraq, the wider Middle East and, perhaps, its oil.”
    Some of the distrust, the US contends, is fostered by Iran. Tehran wields considerable influence both within the Iraqi military and in political circles in Baghdad. When Ash Carter announced that the US was set to send an “expeditionary targeting force” to the country to assist in raids on Islamic State targets, PM Haider al-Abadi [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], saying that “Iraq does not need foreign ground combat forces on Iraqi land." Abadi rejected a similar Pentagon trial balloon involving Apaches helicopters last month.
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    Meanwhile, Tehran’s Shiite militias [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] any US soldiers operating on Iraqi soil. “We will chase and fight any American force deployed in Iraq. Any such American force will become a primary target for our group. We fought them before and we are ready to resume fighting,” a spokesman for Kata'ib Hezbollah said. Similarly, influential Shiite lawmakers like the infamous Hakim al-Zamili have called on Abadi to seek [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] from Moscow to expel foreign forces from the country.
    Now, in the latest example of just how tenuous Washington’s grip on the region has become, the Iraqi parliament's Security and Defense Committee is calling for the review and cancellation of Baghdad’s security agreement with the US. 
    “The government and parliament need to review the agreement signed with the United States on security because the United States does not seriously care about its fulfillment,” committee member Hamid al-Mutlaq, a senior Sunni lawmaker [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. “We demand that it be annulled,” he added. 
    Who will fill the void you ask? You guessed it:
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    "Soon, a meeting [of the committee] with Prime Minister Haider Abadi will be held, at which we will propose cooperating with Russia in carrying out airstrikes against IS and in the fight against terrorism in Iraq," another committee member [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
    Recall that this is precisely what we said would happen once we learned in September that Russia, Iran, Iraq, and Syria had set up a joint intelligence sharing cell in Baghdad.
    It was clear from the beginning that Tehran saw an opportunity to consolidate its power in Iraq and preserve its influence in Syria by convincing Vladimir Putin that Russia could replace the US as Mid-East superpower puppet master by helping Tehran to defeat the insurgency in Syria and boot the US from Iraq once and for all. Moscow will of course get a warm reception from Iraqi lawmakers thanks to the fact that many MPs are loyal to Iran. 
    This makes sense logistically as well. Once the Russians and Iranians have retaken Aleppo (which admittedly is taking a while), they can push east towards Raqqa and from there, move straight across the border, effectively pinching ISIS between an advance from the west and Iran’s Shiite militias already operating in Iraq. Of course that will entail some measure of cooperation with the US, France, Britain, and, once in Iraq, the Peshmerga. It is at that point that Washington’s resolve when it comes to preserving whatever charade is being perpetrated in Raqqa will be put to the ultimate test. 
    In the meantime, it will be interesting to see how the US responds to a move by Baghdad to nullify the security agreement.
    Washington knows it can land troops in Iraq by simply going through Erbil which is precisely what Turkey did last Friday. The KRG/ Barzani end-around serves to give the troop deployments a kind of quasi-legitimacy. That is, the Kurds control the territory and are self governing, so when Erdogan (and, soon Obama) drop troops in northern Iraq against Baghdad's wishes, they can claim it's not a violation of sovereignty. As we saw over the weekend, Iraqi officials aren't going to stand for it going forward although now that it's become clear that NATO and the Security Council aren't going to be any help (just as we said), Iraq's ambassador to the UN is striking a concilliatory tone, saying Baghdad will try to settle the dispute with Turkey "bilaterally."
    It now appears that the stage is set for Baghdad to claim that the US, like Turkey, is illegitimately occupying the country (again). If Iraq nullifies the security agreement and moves to invite the Russians into the country, the US will be forced to either pack up and leave, cooperate with Moscow, or fight for the right to preserve American influence. 
    Decisions, decisions.
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    Post by wciappetta Wed 09 Dec 2015, 6:47 pm

    No surprise here... it was expected...Obama has handed the entire middle east to Russia ...I wonder if Obamacare  covers proctologic exams  because Barry's going to need it for that headache. Now for us this outcome is good though  since the Russians have demonstrated a willingness to get the job done. I guarantee you lawyers are not directing their sorties  and you can be assured the Russian jets aren't returning to base without dropping their ordnances...


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    Post by Talon777 Thu 10 Dec 2015, 4:15 am

    It is becoming embarrassing how the U.S. has handled the middle east...I mean to make Putin look good takes a lot based on his past. We should have been able to take ISIS out easily, yet obvious stalling was taking place.
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    Post by duck2000 Thu 10 Dec 2015, 4:27 am

    wciappetta wrote:No surprise here... it was expected...Obama has handed the entire middle east to Russia ...I wonder if Obamacare  covers proctologic exams  because Barry's going to need it for that headache. Now for us this outcome is good though  since the Russians have demonstrated a willingness to get the job done. I guarantee you lawyers are not directing their sorties  and you can be assured the Russian jets aren't returning to base without dropping their ordnances...
    LOL dejavu.. lol
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