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    Post by Rocky Sat 07 Apr 2018, 9:40 am


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    The US project Project Sandkit, in a report on Saturday, stressed the need for former US President George W. Bush and some of the officials who caused the war to be "aggressive" on Iraq to trial, describing the war as a "crime"
    "The war on Iraq was a tragic mistake and its perpetrators are still at large, which confirms that President George W. Bush and other members of his administration - including Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Bolton, who was recently appointed by Donald Trump as the next national security adviser, should be brought to trial as war criminals. " 
    "The idea of ​​the crime of embarking on a war of aggression dates back to 1919 when the Treaty of Versailles provided for the trial of Kaiser Wilhelm II (to commit a major crime against international morality in World War I), but after World War II, The United States has played leading roles in the Nuremberg trials, but they have now failed to apply the same standards to their leaders. No more hypocrisy than that? "He said.
    "The invasion of Iraq was an act of aggression against a country that did not attack or threaten to attack another country. It was a violation of the UN Charter. Both Bush and Blair demanded permission from the Security Council to attack, claiming that Iraq violated its agreement to disarm, but France, Of the members of the Security Council rejected this, arguing that the weapons inspectors in Iraq should be allowed to continue their work to determine whether Saddam possesses weapons of mass destruction. However, Bush and Blair went ahead with the attack on Iraq. "
    "It is unlikely that Bush, or any member of his administration, will be tried for the crime of launching an aggressive war in the ICC, because although President Bill Clinton signed the treaty establishing the International Criminal Court, the Bush administration withdrew that signature , And the United States is still not a party to the treaty, "asserting that" this does not mean, however, that it is useless to discuss the indiscriminate nature of the criminal attack on Iraq has escalated international tensions since the accession of Trump power and will increase the appointment of Bolton more than that , Given his hard-line views on Iran and Korea North. This is a time to remind ourselves that embarking on an aggressive war is often wrong, and always a crime, even if the crime is unpunished. " Ending / 25 z

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    Post by Neno Sat 07 Apr 2018, 10:00 pm

    Are you kidding me? Really?
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    Post by ron-man Sat 07 Apr 2018, 10:25 pm

    Oh I see ,,so invadeing Kawait was not invading another country, wow!
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    Post by Neno Sun 08 Apr 2018, 9:09 pm

    ron-man wrote:Oh I see ,,so invadeing Kawait was not invading another country, wow!
    Amazing isn't it!
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    Post by wciappetta Sun 08 Apr 2018, 9:46 pm

    Not to mention the WMD's which were there. Israel reported how Saddam was transporting them to Syria while the coalition was building. Iraqi general  Georges Sada documented it too. It was an interesting read.


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    Post by Screwball Mon 09 Apr 2018, 4:09 am

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    wciappetta wrote:Not to mention the WMD's which were there. Israel reported how Saddam was transporting them to Syria while the coalition was building. Iraqi general  Georges Sada documented it too. It was an interesting read.
    What’s interesting is both brisitsh prime minister and former Australian prime minister have both said the intel was wrong and they were lied to abiut the so called weapons of mass destruction...interesting
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    Post by wciappetta Mon 09 Apr 2018, 5:54 am

    Something to remember. It seems it depends on what one means by WMD's if it refers to chemical/biological types then Iraq was  loaded with them. If one means Nukes then no. for certain the Chemical weapons were there, a vast amount:


    Exclusive! Former Top Military Aide to Saddam Reveals Dictator's Secret Plans
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    This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," January 25, 2006, that has been edited for clarity.
    SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: He was one of Saddam Hussein's top military advisors and the only man who disagreed with the dictator and lived to tell about it. Now Iraqi General George Sada is breaking his silence with a new book, "Saddam's Secrets: How an Iraqi General Defied and Survived Saddam Hussein." He joins us for an exclusive interview tonight.
    General, when did you come to the United States?
    GEORGE SADA, AUTHOR, "SADDAM'S SECRETS": Well, I came two years ago.

    HANNITY: And up to that point, you were in Iraq?

    SADA: Yes, I was in Iraq.

    HANNITY: And you were Saddam Hussein's top military advisor?

    SADA: Yes, I was No. 2 in the air force.

    HANNITY: And how many years did you work under him?

    SADA: I worked since the revolution of 1968.

    HANNITY: From the beginning?

    SADA: Yes. I was retired in '86 and then I was recalled again when Iraq invaded Kuwait.

    HANNITY: Yes. You reveal in this book, there's been so much discussion about weapons of mass destruction, whether they had them, where they were stored, how they got rid of them, you know, when it came time for the United States to invade and where are they now? You answered these questions.

    SADA: Well, I want to make it clear, very clear to everybody in the world that we had the weapon of mass destruction in Iraq, and the regime used them against our Iraqi people. It was used against Kurds in the north, against Arabs — marsh Arabs in the south...

    HANNITY: Some people say they were destroyed. Did we still have them leading up to the invasion?

    SADA: No, he had a very good organization that Saddam was created to show some of them but to continue to hide.

    HANNITY: So he had them.

    SADA:     Yes.

    HANNITY: Where were they? And were they moved and where?

    SADA: Well, up to the year 2002, 2002, in summer, they were in Iraq. And after that, when Saddam realized that the inspectors are coming on the first of November and the Americans are coming, so he took the advantage of a natural disaster happened in Syria, a dam was broken. So he — he announced to the world that he is going to make an air bridge...
    HANNITY: You know for a fact he moved these weapons to Syria?
    SADA: Yes.
    HANNITY: How do you know that?
    SADA: I know it because I have got the captains of the Iraqi airway that were my friends, and they told me these weapons of mass destruction had been moved to Syria.
    BECKEL: How did he move them, general? How were they moved?
    SADA: They were moved by air and by ground, 56 sorties by jumbo, 747, and 27 were moved, after they were converted to cargo aircraft, they were moved to Syria.
    BECKEL: So I assume this would not have happened without the permission of Damascus. Is that correct?
    SADA: Well, of course, you know, when the aircraft would land in Syria, they must have some sort of agreement between the two.
    BECKEL: So the Syrian government knows exactly where these weapons are today?
    SADA: I think so. Because I am sure that these weapons have landed in Damascus. Where could they have gone?
    BECKEL: OK, let me ask you a question. This may be a little tough, but I have to ask you this, general. You talked about the use of these weapons, and it's been documented. They're horrible, you said. And you were in the military during that time.
    SADA: Yes.
    BECKEL: Do you have any personal regrets? Your military used these weapons, correct?
    SADA: Yes.
    BECKEL: And you were part of — and you were part of that military. So I guess my question is, do you now feel a great deal of regret for having used the weapons?
    SADA: Yes, of course. Iraq had used that weapons, it was a great time. And especially when it was used against our people, Kurds in the north and Arabs in the marsh areas.
    BECKEL: And during the eight-year Iranian war, it was used against Iranians, as well, right?
    SADA: Yes, to be very frank, it was used when the Iranian used to penetrate our defenses in our territories.
    BECKEL: Do the Iranians have chemical weapons of mass destruction, as well?
    SADA: Well, I cannot tell, but as you know they are building now a nuclear portion.
    BECKEL: Last question for you, did Saddam Hussein have a nuclear weapon capability? Was he moving towards it? And if so, when would he have had it if the United States had not invaded?
    SADA: Well, you see, Iraq had some projects for nuclear weapons but it was destroyed in 1981.
    BECKEL: So — so there was no — so there was no chance there were nuclear weapons or on their way to nuclear weapons when we invaded?
    SADA: Not in Iraq.
    BECKEL: OK.
    HANNITY: And let me ask you about this. You describe this conversation that you had with Saddam Hussein and your disagreement with him.
    SADA: Yes.
    HANNITY: Not many people got to disagree with Saddam Hussein and live to tell about it.
    SADA: Yes.
    HANNITY: What happened?
    SADA: Yes, actually, I had many times— I have disagreed with Saddam Hussein on many things. And for some reason, he used to believe me and he used to listen to me.
    And thank God that in the last war, we were so supposed to attack Israel by like eight aircraft, all equipped with nuclear — chemical weapons in two waves, one wave through Jordan and the other wave through Syria, without telling Syrians and Jordan about that.
    But I mentioned to the president, "Sir, this is going to be a disaster, because Israelis have got plans to destroy these airplanes before they go to Israel. Although whatever air defenses are good, but still some aircraft can penetrate."
    HANNITY: Was he an evil man?
    SADA: Well, I think to a certain degree, yes, he was.
    HANNITY: All right. Thank you for sharing that. Wonder if the mainstream media will pick up on your comments. Appreciate you being with us.
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    Post by Ronbo Mon 09 Apr 2018, 6:20 am

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    wciappetta wrote:Not to mention the WMD's which were there. Israel reported how Saddam was transporting them to Syria while the coalition was building. Iraqi general  Georges Sada documented it too. It was an interesting read.
    What’s interesting is both brisitsh prime minister and former Australian prime minister have both said the intel was wrong and they were lied to abiut the so called weapons of mass destruction...interesting
    I can tell you first hand that the "intel" was not wrong. We had a couple of folks in my unit that were treated for mustard gas burns. When the air war started, before Desert Storm kicked off with the ground forces, after the bombings started, our chemical detectors started going off 10-15 times a day, we were told they were "faulty" and to just shut them off to save the batteries.
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    Post by Screwball Mon 09 Apr 2018, 6:33 am

    The used them on the kurds didn’t they?
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    Post by Ronbo Mon 09 Apr 2018, 7:53 am

    I have heard they did, but that was a while before Desert Storm.
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