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URGENT: Veterans are receiving letters from Obama administration prohibiting the ownership of firear

Post by day dreamer on Thu 21 Feb 2013, 11:16 am

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URGENT: Veterans are receiving letters from Obama administration prohibiting the ownership of firearms... Developing...


February 20, 2013




Written By Constitutional Attorney Michael Connelly, J.D.

How would you feel if you received a letter from the U.S. Government informing you that because of a physical or mental condition that the government says you have it is proposing to rule that you are incompetent to handle your own financial affairs? Suppose that letter also stated that the government is going to appoint a stranger to handle your affairs for you at your expense? That would certainly be scary enough but it gets worse.

What if that letter also stated: “A determination of incompetency will prohibit you from purchasing, possessing, receiving, or transporting a firearm or ammunition. If you knowingly violate any of these prohibitions, you may be fined, imprisoned, or both pursuant to the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, Pub.L.No. 103-159, as implemented at 18, United States Code 924(a)(2).”?

That makes is sound like something right from a documentary on a tyrannical dictatorship somewhere in the world. Yet, as I write this I have a copy of such a letter right in front of me. It is being sent by the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs to hundreds, perhaps thousands, of America’s heroes. In my capacity as Executive Director of the United States Justice Foundation (USJF) I have been contacted by some of these veterans and the stories I am getting are appalling.

The letter provides no specifics on the reasons for the proposed finding of incompetency; just that is based on a determination by someone in the VA. In every state in the United States no one can be declared incompetent to administer their own affairs without due process of law and that usually requires a judicial hearing with evidence being offered to prove to a judge that the person is indeed incompetent. This is a requirement of the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution that states that no person shall “… be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law…”.

Obviously, the Department of Veterans Affairs can’t be bothered by such impediments as the Constitution, particularly since they are clearly pushing to fulfill one of Obama’s main goals, the disarming of the American people. Janet Napolitano has already warned law enforcement that some of the most dangerous among us are America’s heroes, our veterans, and now according to this letter from the VA they can be prohibited from buying or even possessing a firearm because of a physical or mental disability.

Think about it, the men and women who have laid their lives on the line to defend us and our Constitution are now having their own Constitutional rights denied. There are no clear criteria for the VA to declare a veteran incompetent. It can be the loss of a limb in combat, a head injury, a diagnosis of PTSD, or even a soldier just telling someone at the VA that he or she is depressed over the loss of a buddy in combat. In none of these situations has the person been found to be a danger to themselves or others. If that was the case than all of the Americans who have suffered from PTSD following the loss of a loved one or from being in a car accident would also have to be disqualified from owning firearms. It would also mean that everyone who has ever been depressed for any reason should be disarmed. In fact, many of the veterans being deprived of their rights have no idea why it is happening.

The answer seems to be it is simply because they are veterans. At the USJF we intend to find the truth by filing a Freedom of Information Act request to the Department of Veterans Affairs to force them to disclose the criteria they are using to place veterans on the background check list that keeps them from exercising their Second Amendment rights. Then we will take whatever legal steps are necessary to protect our American warriors.

The reality is that Obama will not get all of the gun control measures he wants through Congress, and they wouldn’t be enough for him anyway. He wants a totally disarmed America so there will be no resistance to his plans to rob us of our nation. That means we have to ask who will be next. If you are receiving a Social Security check will you get one of these letters? Will the government declare that you are incompetent because of your age and therefore banned from firearm ownership. It certainly fits in with the philosophy and plans of the Obama administration. It is also certain that our military veterans don’t deserve this and neither do any other Americans.


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Executive Director, United States Justice Foundation​

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Re: URGENT: Veterans are receiving letters from Obama administration prohibiting the ownership of firear

Post by onecinful1 on Sat 23 Feb 2013, 12:21 pm

It all started in 2008 when pigs started flying! one of those pig's flew to chicago, now he's Mayor of chicago, goes by the name Rahm Emanuel, another anti-gun advocate, attempting "city ordinances" banning who can carry guns and what types of gun's you can own in the city of chicago". even tho the Federal Supreme court in 2009 overturned the city ordinance of 1989 banning all hand guns in the city, this pig still feels he's don't stink. IL is the only state that does not have a "concealed weapon's law". Did I mention Obama is from IL, lol see how pigs stick together. This is why I love America: UPDATE: in december 2012 the Federal Supreme court ruled that IL lawmakers have until June 2013 to make a "concealed weapons carry law", on Feb 21 the Federal Supreme court will hear "NO APPEALS" from the IL attorney general on its decision!!!!! so heres me, smiling with my finger in the air http://media.beta.photobucket.com/user/requier/media/middlefingernuke.jpg.html?filters[term]=Middle%20Finger%20in%20the%20AIR&filters[primary]=images&filters[secondary]=videos&sort=1&o=6 (flag still waving) at all those pigs, saying,, God Bless America!!!!!!! waiting for June 2013, and my right to fully exercise my 2nd amendment rights!!!!!

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Re: URGENT: Veterans are receiving letters from Obama administration prohibiting the ownership of firear

Post by adm on Sat 23 Feb 2013, 12:53 pm

I'm a Veteran and never received such a letter...hmmmmm!
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Re: URGENT: Veterans are receiving letters from Obama administration prohibiting the ownership of firear

Post by wciappetta on Sat 23 Feb 2013, 2:33 pm

@day dreamer wrote:URGENT: Veterans are receiving letters from Obama administration prohibiting the ownership of firearms... Developing...


February 20, 2013




Written By Constitutional Attorney Michael Connelly, J.D.

How would you feel if you received a letter from the U.S. Government informing you that because of a physical or mental condition that the government says you have it is proposing to rule that you are incompetent to handle your own financial affairs? Suppose that letter also stated that the government is going to appoint a stranger to handle your affairs for you at your expense? That would certainly be scary enough but it gets worse.

What if that letter also stated: “A determination of incompetency will prohibit you from purchasing, possessing, receiving, or transporting a firearm or ammunition. If you knowingly violate any of these prohibitions, you may be fined, imprisoned, or both pursuant to the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, Pub.L.No. 103-159, as implemented at 18, United States Code 924(a)(2).”?

That makes is sound like something right from a documentary on a tyrannical dictatorship somewhere in the world. Yet, as I write this I have a copy of such a letter right in front of me. It is being sent by the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs to hundreds, perhaps thousands, of America’s heroes. In my capacity as Executive Director of the United States Justice Foundation (USJF) I have been contacted by some of these veterans and the stories I am getting are appalling.

The letter provides no specifics on the reasons for the proposed finding of incompetency; just that is based on a determination by someone in the VA. In every state in the United States no one can be declared incompetent to administer their own affairs without due process of law and that usually requires a judicial hearing with evidence being offered to prove to a judge that the person is indeed incompetent. This is a requirement of the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution that states that no person shall “… be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law…”.

Obviously, the Department of Veterans Affairs can’t be bothered by such impediments as the Constitution, particularly since they are clearly pushing to fulfill one of Obama’s main goals, the disarming of the American people. Janet Napolitano has already warned law enforcement that some of the most dangerous among us are America’s heroes, our veterans, and now according to this letter from the VA they can be prohibited from buying or even possessing a firearm because of a physical or mental disability.

Think about it, the men and women who have laid their lives on the line to defend us and our Constitution are now having their own Constitutional rights denied. There are no clear criteria for the VA to declare a veteran incompetent. It can be the loss of a limb in combat, a head injury, a diagnosis of PTSD, or even a soldier just telling someone at the VA that he or she is depressed over the loss of a buddy in combat. In none of these situations has the person been found to be a danger to themselves or others. If that was the case than all of the Americans who have suffered from PTSD following the loss of a loved one or from being in a car accident would also have to be disqualified from owning firearms. It would also mean that everyone who has ever been depressed for any reason should be disarmed. In fact, many of the veterans being deprived of their rights have no idea why it is happening.

The answer seems to be it is simply because they are veterans. At the USJF we intend to find the truth by filing a Freedom of Information Act request to the Department of Veterans Affairs to force them to disclose the criteria they are using to place veterans on the background check list that keeps them from exercising their Second Amendment rights. Then we will take whatever legal steps are necessary to protect our American warriors.

The reality is that Obama will not get all of the gun control measures he wants through Congress, and they wouldn’t be enough for him anyway. He wants a totally disarmed America so there will be no resistance to his plans to rob us of our nation. That means we have to ask who will be next. If you are receiving a Social Security check will you get one of these letters? Will the government declare that you are incompetent because of your age and therefore banned from firearm ownership. It certainly fits in with the philosophy and plans of the Obama administration. It is also certain that our military veterans don’t deserve this and neither do any other Americans.


-- Michael Connelly, J.D.

Executive Director, United States Justice Foundation​

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If one is mentally incompetent then they cannot stand trial either.....


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Post by CITEX on Sat 23 Feb 2013, 5:07 pm

@adm wrote:I'm a Veteran and never received such a letter...hmmmmm!



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Post by adm on Sat 23 Feb 2013, 8:17 pm

Yes!

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Re: URGENT: Veterans are receiving letters from Obama administration prohibiting the ownership of firear

Post by Ronbo on Sat 23 Feb 2013, 8:25 pm

wonder how happy it would make "them" if we do get one and just write "return to sender" on it and send it back? Twisted Evil


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Post by Carol D on Sat 23 Feb 2013, 8:41 pm

There you go Ronbo!! Excellent move!!
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Post by duck2000 on Sun 24 Feb 2013, 6:35 am

made fox news this morn!

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