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    Post by day dreamer Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:16 pm

    URGENT: Veterans are receiving letters from Obama administration prohibiting the ownership of firearms... Developing...


    February 20, 2013




    Written By Constitutional Attorney Michael Connelly, J.D.

    How would you feel if you received a letter from the U.S. Government informing you that because of a physical or mental condition that the government says you have it is proposing to rule that you are incompetent to handle your own financial affairs? Suppose that letter also stated that the government is going to appoint a stranger to handle your affairs for you at your expense? That would certainly be scary enough but it gets worse.

    What if that letter also stated: “A determination of incompetency will prohibit you from purchasing, possessing, receiving, or transporting a firearm or ammunition. If you knowingly violate any of these prohibitions, you may be fined, imprisoned, or both pursuant to the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, Pub.L.No. 103-159, as implemented at 18, United States Code 924(a)(2).”?

    That makes is sound like something right from a documentary on a tyrannical dictatorship somewhere in the world. Yet, as I write this I have a copy of such a letter right in front of me. It is being sent by the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs to hundreds, perhaps thousands, of America’s heroes. In my capacity as Executive Director of the United States Justice Foundation (USJF) I have been contacted by some of these veterans and the stories I am getting are appalling.

    The letter provides no specifics on the reasons for the proposed finding of incompetency; just that is based on a determination by someone in the VA. In every state in the United States no one can be declared incompetent to administer their own affairs without due process of law and that usually requires a judicial hearing with evidence being offered to prove to a judge that the person is indeed incompetent. This is a requirement of the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution that states that no person shall “… be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law…”.

    Obviously, the Department of Veterans Affairs can’t be bothered by such impediments as the Constitution, particularly since they are clearly pushing to fulfill one of Obama’s main goals, the disarming of the American people. Janet Napolitano has already warned law enforcement that some of the most dangerous among us are America’s heroes, our veterans, and now according to this letter from the VA they can be prohibited from buying or even possessing a firearm because of a physical or mental disability.

    Think about it, the men and women who have laid their lives on the line to defend us and our Constitution are now having their own Constitutional rights denied. There are no clear criteria for the VA to declare a veteran incompetent. It can be the loss of a limb in combat, a head injury, a diagnosis of PTSD, or even a soldier just telling someone at the VA that he or she is depressed over the loss of a buddy in combat. In none of these situations has the person been found to be a danger to themselves or others. If that was the case than all of the Americans who have suffered from PTSD following the loss of a loved one or from being in a car accident would also have to be disqualified from owning firearms. It would also mean that everyone who has ever been depressed for any reason should be disarmed. In fact, many of the veterans being deprived of their rights have no idea why it is happening.

    The answer seems to be it is simply because they are veterans. At the USJF we intend to find the truth by filing a Freedom of Information Act request to the Department of Veterans Affairs to force them to disclose the criteria they are using to place veterans on the background check list that keeps them from exercising their Second Amendment rights. Then we will take whatever legal steps are necessary to protect our American warriors.

    The reality is that Obama will not get all of the gun control measures he wants through Congress, and they wouldn’t be enough for him anyway. He wants a totally disarmed America so there will be no resistance to his plans to rob us of our nation. That means we have to ask who will be next. If you are receiving a Social Security check will you get one of these letters? Will the government declare that you are incompetent because of your age and therefore banned from firearm ownership. It certainly fits in with the philosophy and plans of the Obama administration. It is also certain that our military veterans don’t deserve this and neither do any other Americans.


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    Executive Director, United States Justice Foundation​

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    Post by CITEX Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:49 pm

    I heard that 3 weeks ago folks who were registered as a Firarms dealer were having thier Geico automobile insurance dropped. That the company was not going to insure them since it was a personal vehicle, and as a firearms dealer, they were subject to commercial policies. Many of these folks are simple people that have thier lisence to sell firearms, its not thier main business. I have not seen the letter but have heard from 2 different people that it did go out. I have to wonder how the got the list of who was a registered firearm dealer in the first place. seems like this is right in line with that action.

    The good news is, that all the criminals out there will still be able to aquire their weapons on the black market. Its the honest folks that are collectors, or have them for thier protection, or hunting, that will suffer.
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    Post by Carol D Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:27 am

    This administration is pathetic and no one is stopping it.
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    Post by notazbad2000 Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:34 am

    It's pretty difficult to stop something like this when the person in charge threatens to make Executive Orders to get their point accross.


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    Post by ron-man Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:13 pm

    Oh my goodness,how much longer will the american people put up with this president and his insane polices.PLEASE forgive my words,but we are like a snowball headed for hell.Why don't we start impeachment procedings on this"what ever he is"make shift leader.I would like to know,are we the people of thisU.S.A. really in charge or just being told we are.Trust me but I don't ever talk like this,but as Merle said "when your walken on our fighten men your walken on the fighten side of me.I almost erased this but dog gone it ,when are we going to say we have had enough.I know this might be edited,but i'm just tired of the way our contry is going.Please forgive me if I have hurt anyones feelings,but I stil live in the United States Of America.GOD BLESS US ALL AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
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    Post by Ronbo Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:22 pm

    I've been thinking about this since it was posted. Can't even put it into words how much it sickens me and ticks me off. And I can't come up with the words to express myself without being PC enough to post on a forum. Out of all the Veterans we have had since 1776, many have given their lives protecting this very thing. Others (too many to count) have been messed up for life either physically or mentally. And the majority of us would do it again in a heartbeat. I just wonder how many of us ever thought that it would come down to sacrificing ourselves again in our own front yards? I will refrain from posting what I really want to say, but with crap like this.... it's gonna get messy. Because unlike a lot of the people in GOV, some of us still believe in the oath we took! Evil or Very Mad
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    Post by costar01 Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:32 pm

    I still believe that this is not a Legal President, But if What I read is true we are looking at looseing a President, because he will turn himself into a "KING". SOON!
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    Post by ron-man Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:05 pm

    Ronbo,and Costar,my heart cries so often about what I see,but the Lord promissed all of us that we would have more than we can bear.I just want the things to turn for the better for all of us and all I can do is pray.I wish as a vet and a person,that there was something I could do humanly.until then my friends,GOD BLESS US ALL AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
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    Post by Carol D Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:31 pm

    We as Americans need to stand together. I wish I knew how to get everyone to be united against our present government. He should be impeached! But no one is doing it. That's the part I don't understand. They work for us and we have the right to fire all guilty parties. It's sad cause all our soldiers gave so much for this country and all is in vain if this imbecile continues to sell us out. I tried calling congressmen and senators, but never get a real answer. Just a thank you for being concerned. None of them have a backbone or all are crooked and sold us out. There are some good ones, but I think they are outnumbered...but if they knew how much support the people would give I think they would do more. I pray also they will open their eyes and I pray for this great country I see being destroyed by greedy power hungy morons. We are fighting the muslim terroists in the middle east and we have one right in our own Whitehouse. God help us all!!!
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    Post by ron-man Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:26 pm

    Yes I would support the impeachment in a heartbeat.I hope that if they are watching this site like we hear they could be they will be a man or should I say a AMERICAN and start doing what is right for our people and country.I must stop because I start thinking things that are not right.GOD BLESS US ALL AND THE UNITED STSTES OF AMERICA.

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